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I performed the 'SMACK" version in the trailer and as expected, people love that sort of thing.
But, I prefer the "Back In Time" routine. They don't scream like a bee landed on them, but it messes with their minds. It's fun to see the deer caught in the headlights" look. "Back In Time" also happens to be very easy to do. |
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On 2013-09-04 15:45, RNK wrote: Here's someone talking about using his effect 10 years ago. It's likely he sold them in his lectures. http://forums.geniimagazine.com/viewtopic.php?t=20679 Now drop it? |
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From FM's FB announcement - "A trick I created for myself 15 years ago and only made and sold in small quantities on my own is finally mass distributed by Penguin Magic. If you've already seen it, there are new handlings and something extra we did to the gimmick to make it even better."
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On 2013-09-04 15:50, Magicsquared wrote: No problem. Just funny IAIN compared FM to John Riggs and as we know Riggs sells his items on his website. So IAIN's comparison was inaccurate since FM does not sell this on his website. RNK
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On 2013-09-04 14:42, IAIN wrote: hate to quote myself here, but if you'd taken the time to actually read what I said, rather than what you THINK I said - you wouldn't have create such a fuss...
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On 2013-09-04 16:10, IAIN wrote: No fuss- my logic compared to FM and John Riggs was accurate. FM does not sell products as John Riggs does on his website. Since really what you meant was that FM sold SMACK at his lectures maybe you should have been a little more specific. Selling at lectures and selling from a website are two totally different balls of wax. Sorry about the misinterpretation. But I was basing my statement on your whole post not just part of it. RNK
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But no one said that they did, except you... you stated that because FMs SMACK! wasn't available via penguin until now meant (in your opinion) that it couldn't have been sold in any other way...because unless its via a commercial routine (i.e. a dedicated major site like Penguin) it doesn't exist...
so I stated (quoted above) that if I followed your logic, then john riggs' work doesn't exist, cos he doesn't sell it via commercial major site like Penguin... and I did say "people do sell stuff during lectures" - so your strange mix of pedantry and re-interpreting what I actually wrote isn't really doing you any favours...
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Soooooooooooooo, after two pages of pretty much nonsense...can we get back on track please?
interesting gimmick a few different presentations are given and explained/demo'd I am quite tempted to make up a passport photo version of the gimmick very well taught I also like the comic book font that's used....
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TheGreatRaymondo Special user Manchester, England 969 Posts
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Is this' available via any dealers in the UK?
I like it - a lot!
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On 2013-09-04 16:28, TheGreatRaymondo wrote: Penguin has their "PENGUIN FLAT-PACKâ„¢ World-wide free shipping" option. I use it here in the states when I just want the one item. http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/3481 |
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On 2013-09-04 16:28, TheGreatRaymondo wrote: got mine from magicshop.co.uk - ordered monday afternoon, arrived this morning..
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Decent was first published in my first lecture notes when I was 17 (I am 37 now)"something to do while waiting" it was called seriously. I sold those notes at my first magi-fest and I made 200 copies..I sold every single one. Mine does not use a gimmick, but it does use a small set up. I have not seen nor heard of FM's effect until today. These are not the things that bother me. Here is what bothers me.
When I worked for papercrane magic as a consultant for a short time, I was going to release a dvd with them of a collection of effects. We went out and shot 2 days worth in ohio, Decent was part of that set. I showed mandy and ian both the effect and they loved it! when I was "let go" I was not given that footage and they either still have it or they trashed it. Either way their eyes have seen it BEFORE FM came to P3 to film it with them. As far as crediting is concerned, we both should credit (and I do)Alex De'Cova for his Flash restoration because his preceded ours. I have no problem with FM selling his as they are diff. in method and they both can be side by side with each other. Me and FM have no problems with each other in any way so those who are not apart of this needs to keep to themselves their unfounded,dumb, and ignorant comments. This is NOT directed towards one single person but to all of magicdom. JM |
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts
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Its a shame they didn't give you your material back... (and its also a shame that I cant buy Descent on its own right now - cos I would!)...
thanks for the info Justin...
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Justin N. Miller Inner circle 2457 Posts
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On 2013-09-04 17:34, IAIN wrote: Ian, Thanks man! Yea I am trying to get it back as we speak. Just sent an email to acar. Hopefully they still have it. Decent will be sold by itself AFTER THE BOLD PROJECT is finished. But for now we have FM effect and method and it looks good! JM |
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lokikross Special user An Undying Heart of Chaos; Stabbed with 719 Posts
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Might as well just re-shoot it JM.
"El Gato" was less than a year old when I asked for the footage to it. They told me if I wanted to give it to people, I would have to re-shoot it. So I did. And it was better. 
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lokikross Special user An Undying Heart of Chaos; Stabbed with 719 Posts
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Back to SMACK!
I believe Francis showed this in his Penguin lecture, as well. I'm not sure if he detailed the gimmick though. I DO know in Indianapolis in 11' he did it, and was selling copies there. I almost bought one. But I'm not into gimmicks for TNRs. (Just my personal choice though). For a gimmicked one, I do like the sudden appearance.
I have never seen Descent. L |
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Justin N. Miller Inner circle 2457 Posts
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On 2013-09-04 19:06, lokikross wrote: Just pmd you the link. JM |
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lokikross Special user An Undying Heart of Chaos; Stabbed with 719 Posts
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I saw JM's version.
It is very visual. Especially if it is non-gimmicked, and easy to get into. I would not know the workings though. I am familiar with Francis' gimmick, and it is clever. But I think these are two different beasts, for sure. Back to SMACK. lol. That is just funny today. (And I guess the Decenter's should boost that thread, or make one. Not being negative at all. Just saying they should both have their threads and their own discussions going.)
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papercrane Regular user Columbus, OH 152 Posts
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IAIN, Justin N. Miller and lokikross - I sent you guys a PM
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Justin N. Miller Inner circle 2457 Posts
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On 2013-09-04 22:41, papercrane wrote: you as well. JM |
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