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Is not many clips there are on youtube of Michael Skinner in his prime. Here is one though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ebutknI8UU. His wonderful impromptu performce of the Cups and Balls on television.

Wonderful, wonderful performace!
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Yes, this is truly wonderful! Also, I have never seen the phase starting at 1:16 before and really like it.

Amongst the related videos, you should also get a link to a living room performance of his 3 ring routine. Wow.
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Thanks for linking to that Smile
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On 2013-09-09 06:57, Tilman wrote:
Yes, this is truly wonderful! Also, I have never seen the phase starting at 1:16 before and really like it.

Amongst the related videos, you should also get a link to a living room performance of his 3 ring routine. Wow.


I have already seen that clip. Michael Skinner is probably my biggest hero in magic, so I hunt down every clip of him I possible can Smile
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Brilliant! Really well done!
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Nice! Time to dust off my cups and a balls again!
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I always enjoy watching these videos when an audience is enjoying the magic. We might be expecting the final loads, but it's nice to hear spectators surprise and enjoyment.
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Wow was that fantastic. Love how this routine doesn't even rely on any stacking phases and still blows others away.

My wife and I like to go to antique shops and we see cups like that all the time - gonna try and find a matching set.
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Really nice
Great interpretation of Vernon's routine!
The rythm is perfect
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Thanks for sharing the link,this is the youngest I have seen him , just the sound of his voice says MAGICIAN and Gentleman
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Yes, thanks. A real inspiration. Really caught me, as I only saw one final load. Phew!
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Then again, maybe not so impromptu, since he was carrying four loads that neatly fit the cups he "found" on the table. Still brilliant and something to aspire to. I don't mean to quibble, afterall, everything we do depends on the audience believing something "that just isn't so" (as Michael Ammar has put it).
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I once did an impromptu routine in a Chinese restaurant using tea cups, wadded up chop stick wrappers for balls and a LEMON FINAL load I took out of the kitchen.
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On 2013-09-11 15:38, Jiceh wrote:
Really nice
Great interpretation of Vernon's routine!
The rythm is perfect


Have no idea why you call this a version of "Vernon's routine".
It isn't. The opening, which may be the reason, is Conus from the
eighteenth century. The routine much more closely relates to Charlie's routine,
and most likely Mike used that as his basis.
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I think he's talking about the fake explanation and loading sequence.

Thanks for posting the clip!
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On 2013-09-12 18:48, JordanB wrote:
I think he's talking about the fake explanation and loading sequence.

Thanks for posting the clip!


Interesting! Perhaps. But does that originate in the 20th century either. let alone
with the "Vernon routine"?
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I haven't done extensive research on pre-20th century cup and balls moves, but my opinion is that the only original piece of Vernon's routine is the loading sequence with the fake explanation. Bob White researched some history on Vernon's routine as well when filming his cups and ball DVD and came to the same conclusion.

Most of the Vernon routine is in print in many other places. I think he learned the opening from the Charles Bertram routine in the C. Lang Neil book, which is also in print in a pre-20th century text.

It's said that Pop Krieger had an influence on Vernon's routine but I haven't been able to find a detailed description of Krieger's routine....so it's possible that it might have come from there. But based on what I know about the Professor's magic the loading sequence with the fake explanation seems like the type of magic that he liked to create.
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On 2013-09-13 11:58, JordanB wrote:
I haven't done extensive research on pre-20th century cup and balls moves, but my opinion is that the only original piece of Vernon's routine is the loading sequence with the fake explanation. Bob White researched some history on Vernon's routine as well when filming his cups and ball DVD and came to the same conclusion.

Most of the Vernon routine is in print in many other places. I think he learned the opening from the Charles Bertram routine in the C. Lang Neil book, which is also in print in a pre-20th century text.

It's said that Pop Krieger had an influence on Vernon's routine but I haven't been able to find a detailed description of Krieger's routine....so it's possible that it might have come from there. But based on what I know about the Professor's magic the loading sequence with the fake explanation seems like the type of magic that he liked to create.

It is my understanding that the importance of the his final load sequence is that it popularized loading from the pocket and he got that from Malini.
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I would argue that Malini popularized loading from the pockets rather than Vernon. Regardless the Professors gambit for loading the cups remains his most valuable and possibly only original contribution to the routine , other than the way he put the various sequences together.

I think the loading sequence is one of the most brilliantly thought out ploys in close up magic.
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Vernon's tip over sequence at the beginning of his routine may have been Pop Krieger's. Yes, Malini started the ball rolling with the final loads from the pockets, but without a doubt it was Vernon that spread it like wildfire through lectures and the DVBOM. When Vernon performed the cups and balls at Billy Rose's nightclub in Manhattan in the 1930s, no other magicians in that area were performing this. Things were that slow with the cups and balls at that time.
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