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On 2013-09-12 16:16, Michael Landes wrote:
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On 2013-09-11 15:38, Jiceh wrote:
Really nice
Great interpretation of Vernon's routine!
The rythm is perfect


Have no idea why you call this a version of "Vernon's routine".
It isn't. The opening, which may be the reason, is Conus from the
eighteenth century. The routine much more closely relates to Charlie's routine,
and most likely Mike used that as his basis.


You are exactly right. This was Mike's handling of Charlie Miller's Impromptu Cups and Balls routine that can be found in the book "Classic Secrets Of Magic which was written by Bruce Elliot. Many do confuse this for being a version of the Vernon routine due to the ending. But it was not based on Dai's routine at all.
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Hey youngins.....watch!!! THAT'S how it's done!!!!!!
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On 2013-09-12 16:16, Michael Landes wrote:
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On 2013-09-11 15:38, Jiceh wrote:
Really nice
Great interpretation of Vernon's routine!
The rythm is perfect


Have no idea why you call this a version of "Vernon's routine".
It isn't. The opening, which may be the reason, is Conus from the
eighteenth century. The routine much more closely relates to Charlie's routine,
and most likely Mike used that as his basis.

It isn't Vernon's routine : I agree
It is close to Vernon's routine (Vernon used the Conus Opening : yes he has not invented all the moves and sequences of the 20th century).
I don't know Charlie Miller's routine but sure it must be good.
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The fact is that in Vernon, Miller and Skinner's routines, there are a lot of similarities ...
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Loved Skinner's performance!
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Great performance for great effect.

I just don't like the fake explanation phase, whoever does it (Vernon, Gazzo, or in this case Skinner..)
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Gulyas,

I had a very interesting talk with Bob White about the fake explanation. In case you didn't know Bob spent a lot of time
with Vernon and even more with Charlie Miller. Needless to say I looked at the fake a lot differently.
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Jared kopf also has his opinion on Vernons fake transfer explanation.

Basically he agrees with Dai Vernon
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One thing I noticed was the audience, I know the guy on the right is Tony Curtis but not sure who the other two are on the left. They could be professional actors for all I know, but whoever they are all three of them know how to behave in front of a camera. Which reminds me of L&L magic DVDs with hired audience to behave a certain way in front of a camera.

There is no doubt that Michael Skinner is talented, but in front of a controlled audience makes me wonder where the real magic is?
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I wouldn't discount Mr. Skinner's skill based on the audience at the table. The two on the ends were celebrity guests. The one on the far left is Jack Lemmon and of course the one on the right was mentioned as being Tony Curtis. The man in the middle was the show host Steve Allen. I don't think they were "acting" surprised in any way as all they really did was sit politely and watch.
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Very entertaining, beautiful to watch
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On 2013-10-03 11:20, Dave V wrote:
. The man in the middle was the show host Steve Allen. I don't think they were "acting" surprised in any way as all they really did was sit politely and watch.


That wasn't Steve Allen that was Joe Flynn. He was on Mchales Navy. If I remember correctly his character's last name was Leddbetter.
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On 2013-10-04 02:23, RS1963 wrote:

That wasn't Steve Allen that was Joe Flynn. He was on Mchales Navy. If I remember correctly his character's last name was Leddbetter.


On second thought, I'll go with that, especially since Steve's show ended in 1965 and the video says this was shot in 1973
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Added note also on the Tonight show the same evening that Michael Skinner was on Mark Wilson had been on presenting some of his illusions. I'm not sure what Mark did since I haven't seen the video footage of that.

At the start of the full video of Mike's appearance Tony Curtis who was the guest host that evening says. "Earlier we had some large stage illusions. Now the close up magic of Mike Skinner" Not word for word but pretty close. Mike told me that the illusions were presented earlier in the show by Mark Wilson. Before the Cups and Balls Mike had also performed a coins across routine,then the cups, followed up with the Three card monte (Vernon's routine) as the finale.
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For those that are would like to learn the cups and balls routine that Michael Skinner performed on The Tonight Show It is now available as a Pdf. Michael's version of Charlie Miller's Impromptu Cups and Balls has never been published before. Now it is available. Steve Pellegrino has described Mike's routine very well. This routine to me is worth much more than the 9.95 here is the link http://skinnercups.com/
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Thanks RS1963

Bought it right away. Huge Skinner fan!
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You are very welcome Daniel.
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This is a fantastic manuscript! It was time that Skinner's routine finally reached publication.
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Steve P. had been entertaining the idea of writing Michael Skinner's C&B routine for the past year if not longer. Steve put a lot of time and effort into this. He is also very pleased that those of you who have purchased Michael Skinner's Impromptu Cups and Balls Routine have found it to your liking. It is a very good routine He also wanted my to say thank you to those that have purchased this so far.
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Just bought the manuscript myself. Should be cool. The piece of the routine that really wows me is the ROV (so it appears to me) in the very first phase. It is a lovely improvement on the transfer and makes that phase more magical by adding another layer to the action. Is that described in the manuscript? Or does anyone know where it is taught? And, yes, I'm still trying to build my courage for final loads.
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