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Jiceh Special user France 742 Posts 
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Imagine if their argument were about music: “If you are on key, you don’t have to worry about rhythm!” I can appreciate a music witch satisfied your criteres (good rythm but "out of key"). It's rare but here's a little example : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nNGlaiVypU ;-) |
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On 2013-11-22 18:59, Lawrence O wrote: We can find a lot of moves (you can even pay for download them. I did it) with angles that are so bad that you can only do it for a camera (or for one only spectator but with care). But your magic should be so strong and your presentation so compelling that people WANT TO BELIEVE that you are a real magician, even though they know you are not Great quote |
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Jiceh Special user France 742 Posts
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On 2013-11-22 15:48, Jonathan Townsend wrote: I made a bad interpretation of the patter but after reading Lawrence O post, I changed my mind Good idea Jon |
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Lawrence O Inner circle French Riviera 6737 Posts
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I think that Jon's idea of using an untold reference to Cinderella for which spectators' acceptance is already preconditionned is not just "good", I think it's brilliant
Magic is the art of emotionally sharing live impossible situations
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Jiceh Special user France 742 Posts
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On 2013-11-23 08:10, Lawrence O wrote: Yes, it's much better than I thought at first. I haven't seen the reference to Cinderella (I was probably tired) and it's a good one because everybody knows it. So it helps to create a world where impossible things become possible : a magic atmosphere. |
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Lawrence O Inner circle French Riviera 6737 Posts
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One futher question.
How what has been uncovered by this thread could be adapted to the Spider Grip vanish ?
Magic is the art of emotionally sharing live impossible situations
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27464 Posts
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Way back when Harry Lorayne published a followup transfer for the spider/sucker vanish it was about avoiding any overt ha-ha at the audience's expense and instead finding congruent gestures to "just so" the palm-toward-audience displays without putting any of the performer character attention there.
from my character's perspective there's no sleight of hand going on.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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harris Inner circle Harris Deutsch 8834 Posts
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JT.
Well said! In my earlier days, I had audiences respond, "I know how you did that, sleight of hand". Not such a good response from audiences. These days my "character", gets something different from my programs. Of course, I am also looking for something different from them.(and to give them) Harris still 2 old to know everything
Harris Deutsch aka dr laugh
drlaugh4u@gmail.com music, magic and marvelous toys http://magician.org/member/drlaugh4u |
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Jiceh Special user France 742 Posts
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On 2013-12-05 13:12, Lawrence O wrote: Good question. I have to think a little about it |
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Anandhu New user India 6 Posts
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I spent a day reading this thread, and it was fantastic.
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countrymaven Inner circle 1717 Posts
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A good false transfer must meet this test. Your false transfer should look as smooth as David Roth's shuttle pass, in any of its versions (a toss or loose grab,etc...).
this is the gold standard which will often deceive magicians, even if they know it. |
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