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playzure Regular user 143 Posts 
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I'm not interested in advanced applications of sight unseen case, but would like a peek wallet of some sort for use in bars(so it needs to llk like a real wallet) when I go out so I can mind read ppl I meet. it needs to store my drivers licence and some cash as well. I'm concerned about the light glare in low light of mind reader or TT, but wonder if these are easier to read in the dark of clubs and bars than SUC. please suggest which I should go with.
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trickiewillie Regular user Virginia 128 Posts
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SUC is a wallet designed to hold business cards. Smaller than a regular wallet. While it might be able to hold a driver's license and some folding money, it's not really designed for that. Also, SUC is low-tech, operates totally differently than TT or mind reader, and requires a little more handling. It is not "almost self working" like TT and MR. If the light in the bar or club is too dark to read something written on the back of a business card, then you'd have a problem with SUC. I've never used MR and never used TT in low light situations, so I can't speak to the glare issue. If you haven't already, do a search of the Café on each of the names of all three. They've all been discussed before.
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Menetekel Loyal user 273 Posts
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I have both, SUC and TT.
I don't like TT (personal preference, maybe) and I never had problems in reading billets with SUC. Hey! I performed it a lot of times for some people in discos and night clubs and I was pretty able to see what they wrote. I would go with SUC and, even though you say that now you are not interested in its advanced application maybe there will be a time in which you will have that interest/need and it's nice to know you already have the tool you need in your hands. I love so much SUC that I have bought both SUC and SUC II (thus consider my advice a little biased  )
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John LeBlanc Special user Houston, TX 524 Posts
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On 2003-12-19 09:45, Menetekel wrote: SUCs for you, I guess, eh? 
I'm curious to know why you use the wallet to begin with, as opposed to some of the more simpler methods of reading the billet. John LeBlanc Houston, TX |
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On 2003-12-19 09:50, John W. LeBlanc wrote: Hi John, I'm curious to know what your question to Menetekel has to do with the original question asked. While I agree with you there are better methods than peek wallets (OO by Alain Bellon is a shining example of perfection, IMO) that's not what was asked. Or am I wrong?
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John LeBlanc Special user Houston, TX 524 Posts
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On 2003-12-19 12:34, Lord Of The Horses wrote: My question was to provoke thought. I don't believe it's necessary to respond strictly to the question asked if there is something else to consider. Clearly, YMMV. John LeBlanc Houston, TX |
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Brandon Regular user Florida 131 Posts
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I think it's great to have other applications available rather than just the narrow scope of straight billet-reading.
SUC allows you to work in real-world situations, and if presented properly--no attention is really paid to the case itself. It can be argued that it would be simpler to just read the billet itself, with a switch or tear, etc...which I agree...but why not have other applications at your desposal, should the need arise? Brandon |
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John LeBlanc Special user Houston, TX 524 Posts
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On 2003-12-19 13:55, Brandon wrote: That was sort of my point, only in reverse. John LeBlanc Houston, TX |
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PSI-kick New user Brigadoon, UK 12 Posts
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SUC - clean and light...
MRW & TT - more light than clean... PSImon
Only one man can see what is before him...
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Devils Advocaat Loyal user London 248 Posts
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My SUC II had to go back to whence it came because the leather finish on it was really awful! Black patent leather. I could have used it as a mirror.
Worst. Wallet. Ever. And if you are reading this, Mark, have you had any more SUC II's in of late that are of a matte finish? Frank.
"My Karma ran over my Dogma..."
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Lord Of The Horses Inner circle 5406 Posts
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On 2003-12-19 17:45, Devils Advocaat wrote: Sorry to hear that  but I guess you were just unlucky.
Anyway you could have used that SUC as an impromptu shiner 
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Devils Advocaat Loyal user London 248 Posts
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...Yes I know! Maybe Mark should commission Jerry O'Connell for the wallets instead of Roy Roth.
Frank.
"My Karma ran over my Dogma..."
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PSI-kick New user Brigadoon, UK 12 Posts
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On 2003-12-19 17:45, Devils Advocaat wrote: Frank that is very strange to hear.... As Mr Roth has always made a quality product. Did you buy direct from Mr Strivings? Mr O'Connell's wallets are nice, but are VERY pricey. And for those interest he already does a peek wallet (himber style). PSImon
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Drew from Spotlight Regular user NJ 126 Posts
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Hi –
I don’t have the other wallets but I do have, and use, the SUC II. As others said it is very low-tech - actually it’s what I love best about it. I only use it to carry certain business cards in and blank cards /billets to use for peeks without the case. I’ve been using Bellon’s OO and I like the idea of not relying on the case all the time. I don’t know how you dress to go out but you might also consider using the Mind Spy wallet. When I wear a jacket I carry this as an everyday wallet. It doesn’t really lend itself to a hip wallet style. You can carry cash, cards, and your drivers license in it. The wallet uses a fantastic mis-direction for the peek AND it can be used for other routines as well. (i.e. card to wallet). Just something else for you to consider Drew |
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playzure Regular user 143 Posts
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I’ve been using Bellon’s OO and I like the idea of not relying on the case all the time.
What is that? |
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Drew from Spotlight Regular user NJ 126 Posts
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Sorry – maybe I wasn’t clear.
OO = Obsidian Oblique a method of getting all the information from a folded billet without appearing to ever look at it by Alain Bellon. All I meant was that I could either use the peek case to get the information or not. Because I have a way to get information without having to pull out the case each time to do so it seems more mysterious. The case becomes secondary. I don’t have the book myself but I understand that you can find expert peeking techniques in Richard Busch’s (sorry if I misspelled your name) book Peek Performances. Sorry again for the confusion Drew |
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On 2003-12-21 10:53, Drew from Spotlight wrote: And Peek Encores by Busch has even more CLEAN methods of peeking...
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