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tomcards Elite user San Francisco 403 Posts |
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doriancaudal Inner circle 1532 Posts |
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On Jul 20, 2014, tomcards wrote: Thanks for the kind words about the book, illustrations, tables, my thinking and my creativity, Tom, that is really appreciated. You mention that there is a “misleading hype”, this is simply not true. The effect is always hands off. Maybe you did not read the entire book, because as reading you, you only FOCUS on the VIDEO demo. This demo only refers to one chapter of the book. All the other methods I teach in the book are NOT on this demo video. Maybe you have to read the text again more carefully to understand that. Also, the second method is the worst scenario. I think I did an honest video demo, showing two cases, you cannot blame that. A lot of magicians nowadays ONLY show you the best case. Moreover, when you say “Most of the time, she will cut the deck and/or she, or the performer, will displace a card or two before she counts the cards.”, this is not true, it is NOT “most of the time”. AGAIN, can you read the text more carefully before commenting? Also, as you write “she removes another deck from the performer’s pocket.”, may I remind you that this is only ONE possible presentation, and that I teach several other presentations in the book? These seem to have disappeared from your review. It is true that the method behind MirACAAN is not for everyone, as I told in the ad. You need to know a memdeck and be able to calculate. Don’t be misled by the fact it requires an “algorithm”, it is not true. I would not call it an algorithm, as it is much easy than that. When you say “If you’re skilled with a memorized deck, you probably already possess a method or two with which to perform ACAAN, without resorting to multiple decks.”, I would answer that it is true that other methods are very good, but they require the magician to touch the cards, not in MirACAAN, in which the deck stays untouched, and most importantly in which the spectator always sees ONE deck, and never suspect the existence of several decks. Also, why didn’t you comment on the chapter around influence, qoc theory, etc. ? A lot of serious magicians loved my method, one of them being Marc Paul, a serious worker and Berglas admirer. The thing is that you have to see MirACAAN as a SYSTEM, not a “trick”, or one “effect”, as Tom Frame says, and I think this is what gave you some trouble.
Hands-off ACAAN - freely chosen card and number : http://doriancaudal.wix.com/miracaan
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doriancaudal Inner circle 1532 Posts |
I have contacted Tom Frame yesterday because despite the fact that this review is his own opinion, that I truely respect, I think it was really important to know if he had read the entire book. He told me yes.
But from his review, it seems not. But as he told me that he read everything and had nothing to add, I consider that this current review is not complete, and is lacking very big parts of the book. I am curious to know if mister Frame has read the Berglas book written by Richard Kaufman, by the way... and if he really understood the "philosophy" behind MirACAAN.
Hands-off ACAAN - freely chosen card and number : http://doriancaudal.wix.com/miracaan
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
It may long be past time for this plot to be put to bed-at least till someone actually comes up with a truly original solution. A solution that involves two visible decks at any stage barely qualifies as ACAAN in my opinion, but each to their own.
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doriancaudal Inner circle 1532 Posts |
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On Jul 23, 2014, Martin Pulman wrote: Again, Martin, you did not read the book, so please avoid this type of comment (indeed it is possible to do MirACAAN with only one deck) if you don't know what you are talking about
Hands-off ACAAN - freely chosen card and number : http://doriancaudal.wix.com/miracaan
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
Dorian, my comment is based on your own description above of performing the effect! Presumably you posted it as proof of the power of the effect? Were there two decks involved? If yes, my comment is perfectly legitimate. Writing a number on the back of their card from one deck then finding it at that number in a completely unrelated deck is bizarre, and could not be further from the purity of the legend of the Berglas Effect if it tried. I do not have to have read your book at any point to make that observation.
I note with interest, however, that you didn't demand silence from any members who hadn't read your book but praised your video demo. Let's not have double standards. |
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doriancaudal Inner circle 1532 Posts |
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On Jul 23, 2014, Martin Pulman wrote: At that specific time ("praised the video demo"), before the beginning of June, the book was not released yet, so no double standards at all
Hands-off ACAAN - freely chosen card and number : http://doriancaudal.wix.com/miracaan
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
I understand. You are not interested in anyone discussing the nature and viability of your method in relation to other methods, including the classic Berglas legend as related by Barrie Richardson in Theatre of the Mind.
You're simply interested in selling your product. I get it. I'll shut up. |
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doriancaudal Inner circle 1532 Posts |
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On Jul 24, 2014, Martin Pulman wrote: Martin, you definitely don't know me. I am the last person who is interested to "sell" something. I am definitely not looking for profit. I am more willing to discuss any method in a constructive manner, and not by exposing, if possible. I have seen the classic Berglas legend, bothe the one related in TOM and also in The Berglas Effects book by R. Kaufman. I love this book, it has been very inspirational for when creating MirACAAN. I wanted to have my own method in which you never touch the deck, and in which you have only one deck, in the mind of the spectator, and I came up with my method. Obviously, it has cons, like you need to memorize some things, it is not easy to learn, you need to practice. But I think it is worth the price. The other methods you mention are great, too, and I often use the one by Barrie Richardson when I want to perform an impromptu ACAAN with a shuffled deck, it kills people. I also use John Born' Meant to Be (similar to Asi Wind's ACAAN), which is my top favorite. Very deceptive method created by John Born.
Hands-off ACAAN - freely chosen card and number : http://doriancaudal.wix.com/miracaan
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
Nor do you know me, yet you told me to avoid commenting. That's not good Café etiquette, in my opinion. If you were offering an idea to other members for free I would have been less blunt in my assessment, but as you are selling it, I should be able to offer an honest appraisal of what you are selling, based on the video and description you provided.
But I agree with you. The Born, Richardson and Wind methods are top notch. Your first version looks pretty great too. It is the two deck business elsewhere that is, in my honest opinion, a poor solution. |
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doriancaudal Inner circle 1532 Posts |
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On Jul 24, 2014, Martin Pulman wrote: I agree with your last sentence Martin, having 2 decks at any point is the poor part. This is why I showed to included in the demo video this worst case. MirACAAN can be flexible, and depending of what is named, a more or less optimal scenario could occur, and you have to choose how you want it to go. I would be happy to discuss more about this subject that fascinates me here or by pm.
Hands-off ACAAN - freely chosen card and number : http://doriancaudal.wix.com/miracaan
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
Thank you Dorian. It is often forgotten that in the Berglas Effect, as related by Richardson, the deck was not on display from the top. Berglas led Richardson to his study to find a deck, then later told him to take the deck from the glove compartment of his car. With that in mind, I came up with a rather novel solution for totally impromptu, informal performances of he routine. It meant the deck wasn't out from the top but the spectator was certain it was the only deck! Sadly, my bag was stolen a few months ago and my device was stolen too!
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doriancaudal Inner circle 1532 Posts |
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On Jul 24, 2014, Martin Pulman wrote: Nice anecdote, Martin I like that ! The most important is what the spectator feels and sees. As long as he is convinced that ONE deck is in play, it's the most important. I would have loved to see your bag btw !
Hands-off ACAAN - freely chosen card and number : http://doriancaudal.wix.com/miracaan
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doriancaudal Inner circle 1532 Posts |
I have created a free and private facebook group for the owners of MirACAAN. It will be a good place to discuss new ideas around MirACAAN, suggestions, advice, anecdotes, reports of how it went when you tried it for spectators, etc.
I will add in the next days a wonderful idea received yesterday by another magician, making MirACAAN simpler than it is now, if you find it not so easy in its actual form. You will like it, I am sure. And I hope more ideas will continue to flow from the MirACAAN tool. So, how to join the group ? Add me on facebook (I don't know, maybe not mandatory...) or just write me a pm request on facebook to join the group by telling me the last word of page 23. Hope to see you there
Hands-off ACAAN - freely chosen card and number : http://doriancaudal.wix.com/miracaan
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doriancaudal Inner circle 1532 Posts |
For the french speakers in the audience A review...
"likability" : 3/4 stars "difficulty" : 4/5 stars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnu5qoUUeus
Hands-off ACAAN - freely chosen card and number : http://doriancaudal.wix.com/miracaan
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Melvin New user 8 Posts |
In my bad English :
MirACAAN is a very good ACAAN (look the demonstration'video, the effect is almost perfect). In the least good case, I prefer the method without the mobile phone (explained in the book). However, Miracaan request solid work to be mastered, thus he is not for the first to come (what gives it some value). My last bibliography on this subject : http://www.fichier-pdf.fr/2014/08/02/biblio-acaan-v8/
Melvin
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doriancaudal Inner circle 1532 Posts |
Facebook group now updated with new versions Those who have the book but still are not in this facebook group, please contact me !
Hands-off ACAAN - freely chosen card and number : http://doriancaudal.wix.com/miracaan
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RobertMarsi Loyal user 237 Posts |
I prefer to buy a PDF version, not a book. Creators who release a book because it might curtail or slow down illegal sharing, unfortanately it doesn't. People can just easily scan the book and turn the scanned pages into PDF. Not hard to do. Yes, I've had my work shared illegally but for some reason, it gained a lot of interest and shot my sales figures up. But if no one can convince Dorian to publish a PDF version, then I guess I'll have to cry uncle and buy the physical book. Sounds good!
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Alex DLF Inner circle 1990 Posts |
I do prefer the feel of a physical book you can bring it everywhere, no electricity needed, on the beach, in yor room..
It's like all the ipad junkie who read their book on it.. You simply can't replace the feel, the smell from real book.
Get yourself Stamper and MONU, the perfect walkaround packet tricks: https://youtu.be/rwtfeKFeLms & https://youtu.be/yz5yKlI-4w8
Make sure to check my English review Channel! http://www.youtube.com/c/alexisreviews |
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RobertMarsi Loyal user 237 Posts |
Well, I always buy PDF's of books as they can be backed up and retrieved anytime at a later time. I am extremely phobic about buying physical books because I once lost all my physical magic and mentalism books and lecture notes to a flood. That is why I always ask for and prefer PDF.
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