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Dynamike
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A lot of other people would have been embarrassed too by being there because they know little. But learning is what it was all about.
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So what did you learn Mike?
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1. Before you are great, you gotta be good. Before you are good, you gotta be bad. Before you are bad, you gotta try.

2. Teaching can be taught without criticizing others.

3. Burning desire.

4. Specialized knowledge.

5. Continue to climb the ladder.

6. Become decisive.

7.
a. Have a good show.
b. Generate leads.
c. Convert the leads to gigs.

8.
a. Control the audience.
b. Make contact with each individual.
c. Be energetic.
d. Comedy.
e. Creative effects that will create reactions.
f. Speak with confidence.
g. Show I am skillful with my talent.
h. Be prepared to be flexible with each audience.
i. Be ready for the unexpected to happen.
j. Have a positive attitude and personality.

Plus much much more.
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That had to be the most marketing slogans I have seen in one post.
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Miike, look over your list. Surely you're not telling us that you couldn't figure those things out for yourself without going to a "boot camp" (I hope!).

Besides, you left off iron your dress shirts and make sure your fly is zipped.
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On 2014-01-01 19:48, Starrpower wrote:
Miike, look over your list. Surely you're not telling us that you couldn't figure those things out for yourself without going to a "boot camp" (I hope!).

My bad. I forgot to mention I learned those when I went to my mini boot camp when I was young and started magic. We all make mistakes, look how you spelled my name, with 2 "i"s. I bet that was the first typo of the year of 2014 on TMC.

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Besides, you left off iron your dress shirts and make sure your fly is zipped.

Those were the next two I was going to list, but my computer ran out of ink.
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On 2013-12-14 09:15, magic4u02 wrote:
One thing to point out is that an agent or agancy should at least be open and honest and let you know the rough estimate of the value the cleint is paying for the event. I personally do not mind what the agency makes off me as long as I get my quoted fee. However, I do need to have a general idea of the overall value the client is paying for everything. the reason is simple. Imagine you think you are doing a show for say $200. Your $200 show consists of certain things you do etc. However the client is actually paying say $500. so what you have is you thinking you are doing a $200 show when in reality the client is wanting and expecting a $500 one. Now one would say the cagent should be up front in regards to the needs the client wants and the solutions provided. well they should, but that does not always happen. Bottom line, I try and show respect to the egents to gain respect back and build a relationship built on trust.

Kyle


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On 2013-12-25 17:31, Howie Diddot wrote:
So what do you do if you perform two shows, the $500.00 show has a saw a woman in half illusion, a chair suspension and Hospitality, and the $200.00 show has tricks like the Shrinking and Growing Head Illusion, a stiff rope and card tricks, if you receive the $200.00 fee, are you expected to perform the $500.00 show because that's what the agency charged?


So, do you perform the $200.00 show, or the $500.00 show?
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I haven't seen you for a while Howie Diddot. I wondered where you were.
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Hi Dynamike

I've had some minor surgery and the recovery has been longer than expected.i

Then I came back to the Café and got stuck in the sales and trade forum;
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On 2014-01-01 19:48, Starrpower wrote:
Miike, look over your list. Surely you're not telling us that you couldn't figure those things out for yourself without going to a "boot camp" (I hope!).

Besides, you left off iron your dress shirts and make sure your fly is zipped.


Don't forget this one: Shine your shoes!!
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You remind me of Geoff Ronning. In 2003 at Dave Dee's bootcamp marketing conference Geoff was speaking similar words. He was embarrassed because most of the magicians were against his speech on agents. Dave said "We beat him up." "We grilled him."


Mike, I've heard the audio from that conference and it always struck me as funny that pretty much everyone there was ridiculing Geoff's point and saying why it was stupid. He just said, "well, that's what I do and it's working - really well".

It's similar to Mindpro's post about his $3,500 booking with the agent making $8,800. Geoff's point with his business as far as I can recall was - who cares what the agent makes, if you're getting the money you asked for? He made pretty much the same point as Mindpro made.

Of course, if most magicians are saying it's the wrong thing to do, that usually means it's exactly the right thing to do...

- Mike
Children's entertainer in Bristol - making children look AMAZING! - www.thekidsmagician.com
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