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***** REMOTE SWITCH *****
10/10
The remoter switch is very small, light and smooth when you touch it. Very well made. The design of it has a purpose which the whole surface is a switch so you do not need to find/search a button on it to press. Just press or squeeze whatever side it will trigger. It has very practical usage that you can just put in your trousers’ back pocket and a quick tap or push the pocket it can work like charm. The spec said the remoter range is 10M and it is true. Actually I did a test that may useless, but I want to see how it is. I put main unit in living room, and go to another room 6M away from main unit and in that room without seeing it I press the remoter, Wow, it sm*ke outside! Then I close the room door and it still works. I guess psychic entertainer in house will like it and find a way to use it effectively.

Some people argue the remoter is useless, for me I just want to see the limitation and possibility of the device. It is just a tool to provide you the possibility. But how to use it, use for which kind of effect it is only by your imagination. Before Vapr , you do not have the power to do it remotely or even think of its application. Now you have the chance to start. Why not?

Here is 2 setting I can think of how the remoter can work in the situation that you are your own and want to put main unit and remoter together in your body. It provides the significant advantage than the standard trigger method.

Setting 1: Use arm band to hold main unit on right arm, put remote in left back pocket of treasure. This make the right hand free and can stretch out to whatever direction you want when the sm*ke appear. This applicable especially for ONE HAND effect like disappear a coin, vanish a card etc. You have no strange move or hold arm back like before to trigger the sm*ke. When all the focus/heater on your right hand, you just do what you used to do, no any adjustment, one quick move of left hand in back make the work done. The disadvantage is in surround situation, if you want to make more than 1 hit smoke(3 sec) it may not looking good that your left hand stay back. Then we go for setting 2

Setting 2: Put main unit directly in right back pocket of treasure, other staff link to right hand (very easy). The arm band has a little pocket designed to hold the remoter (thanks WILL to consider it), put it in there and wear the arm band on left arm. This setting allows you to do the one hand effect also both hand effects. Just like the normal trigger method by other device, but you have the ability to trigger it with another hand without tube around your body. Also put main unit in back pocket it reduce and block some noise.

I am sure you can make other setting creatively when you play with it (Toe setting, Ass setting, etc.)

***** DVD *****
7/10

The whole DVD has 1 hour. But related to Vapr only 17 mins (rest are promotion material).
I strongly recommend you watch the DVD first instead of anxiously to play it or put in charging.
Go directly to Vapr introduction chapter, which cover most of thing you need to know.

The introduction part is well made, straight forwards. There are some written sentence in some place during playing, those are all important, I suggest you pause the playing and read those sentence. For example the warning of turn the right direction when remove heater coil is in written sentence, you need to read it before do the first charging.

I would hope that DVD can make longer than 17 minutes to explain more of the handling.
Some movement and handling of device is so quickly showed like MTV style and no step by step.
For an electrical device I think the explanation in DVD is not the level it shall be.

In the end of that chapter, 3 effects using Vapr is introduced.
1, ice appears in empty hand. It is very easy to do and the best effect of three. I was fooled when I watch it.
2. Trace. It is a Will market effect adding Vapr to perform. It is good. Card fan may willing buy Trace, not my taste.
3. Smoke from empty cup. You already see it in demo video. Nothing to add.

If you never own an sm*ke device, or want to improve the handling, I strongly recommend Pure Sm*ke Training DVD by George Wilson. It is original made for PS, but everything it teaching can use by Vapr. This DVD not only teach the effects, but also you will learn how to generate sm*ke like real in your hands. George teach his version of show ice cube from empty hand, it is so good. Without this DVD I doubt you can use Vapr effectively and magically.

***** Manual *****

7/10
The manual is very simple. Very well printed.
It covers some important thing you need to know about the device.
But for an electric device it is by far so simple.
Café member KyleMarlett on behalf of SansMinds put a troubleshooting PDF as supplement manual which is very useful. Any user of Vapr shall check it out and read it.
You can find his post here http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/searc......=8180214
Or download file from https://www.dropbox.com/s/s7o6z6az133sl7......Shooting
If you want to know how long one cartridge can use, or other question, you can find in above file.

***** CARTAIDGE REPLACEMENT ****
One thing is missing from DVD and manual is how to replace cartridge.
It puzzled me when I try doing it. And it puzzled others as well in this forum.
Anyway here is how I do it and it works well:
Hold the heater coil which has round band on it, pull out the green cartridge if it is the first time you replace it. The supplied cartridge is black in its box. Push the new cartridge into heater coil; be careful you shall choose the right end which has an Aluminium foil in it towards heater coil. You can push it gently, slowly but with some strength. And make them tight together.
One tips I would give is next time I change cartridge, I will remove the heat coil first, then do replacement. Reason is heat coil and main body together when pull or push cartridge you may damage it as I stated in warning part.
I do not use any needle or something to break and make a hole of cartridge’s Aluminium foil.

***** QUALITY *****
Official web provide Main Unit/ Vaporizer Replacement 1st year free.(shipment fee shall be on you)
If you want to buy it, strongly recommend you check the dealer does it have one year free replacement.
If not, go somewhere else who has it to buy. Never buy it without this service.
Even with high standard quality control the electric device can go wrong anytime.
From some user feedback here some unit they have not function after charging or short play.
I guess it may due to fault unit or due to the charging issue or heater coil handling I placed at beginning of this review.

My experience is:
I played it for 2 days, charged it twice (not because low battery, but just to test will charging cause problem). Used fully 1 cartridge and replaced new one. So far all are good. Same smoke, same silent level,
I do not know what will happen next. But with one year free replacement what else can go wrong?
If you want to be sure the quality of it is general good, you can wait another 1, 2 month to see how others comment.

***** CONCLUSION*****
Vapr is a very good product. I saw expensive device and cheaper device before, None of them I am willing to carry with me. But with vapr’s small main unit, the durable cube, very well made arm band, remoter it is so easy/comfortable to carry and play with whenever you feel the need. And all of them can easily put into a small box/bag if you can find. The handling is so easy, the sm*ke is beautiful. The silent level is within my acceptance range.

It raises the bar of design, good thinking behind a product. And its innovation in some aspect shall definitely be encouraged with open mind. As long as it has good quality and can use for long time, it will be very good. But we do not know yet.

In the end I will not say the words normal reviewer will say for a good product” I highly recommend you buy it”. NO I not recommend anything. It is your decision, not mine. What I provide is just the insight you may not know before you get it. That is how the review shall be.

I hope the review will help you in some aspect. Like I get lots from all of you. .




Couldn’t agree with you more !!.. thank you for such an in depth review of VAPR.. I really hope all the “hater’s” of VAPR put there will soon try and listen too the honest reviews from people who actually have and perform with VAPR !! Smile

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I'm a noob with smoke device, and I ordered vapr should get it within a day or two ( was meant to be last week got delayed) hopefully nothing wrong happens.i believe my dealer did give a warranty. Anyways very helpful review. Btw you mean Gregory Wilson?
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I have just received an update on the replacement charger from Sans Minds. They are posting it out today so ill be able to try charging the unit from my mac and see if it makes a difference. Im not gonna lie, its starting to get me down. Looking at this £150 piece of kit that is unusable. The moral dilemma you also have is, Sure I'm protected in terms of being able to get a refund from the magic shop but that will screw over the magic shop. Ive used my local magic shop since I was sixteen and they stock my products. To have to ask for a refund on the unit even though, technically it has nothing to do with them, its awful. Small business are having enough issues at the moment without me having to give them a useless unit to return. This is our industry for you!

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Finally! Thank you Max88 for taking the effort to make an in-depth review of this device. Finally an opinion from somebody who has tested the device!
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I have just received an update on the replacement charger from Sans Minds. They are posting it out today so ill be able to try charging the unit from my mac and see if it makes a difference. Im not gonna lie, its starting to get me down. Looking at this £150 piece of kit that is unusable. The moral dilemma you also have is, Sure I'm protected in terms of being able to get a refund from the magic shop but that will screw over the magic shop. Ive used my local magic shop since I was sixteen and they stock my products. To have to ask for a refund on the unit even though, technically it has nothing to do with them, its awful. Small business are having enough issues at the moment without me having to give them a useless unit to return. This is our industry for you!

Jamie Daws


If you have a faulty unit, how will that 'screw over' your shop? They bought it for around £100 wholesale and will get a refund from sansminds.
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Finally! Thank you Max88 for taking the effort to make an in-depth review of this device. Finally an opinion from somebody who has tested the device!


hey Peterger ,

I have used and performed with my VAPR too, but haven’t had the chance too go in depth review as yet !.. but I don't think I could get any better than Max88 anyway lol !!

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When I start the main unit ON again after it has been OFF, I need to push it once and nothing comes out, and THEN, when pushing a second time, nice and thick smoke comes out. Is it an air issue, I mean, some air needs to be pushed through the tubing to reach the vaporizer, and this needs about 3 seconds, just the time for one push... ?

Does this happen to you, too ?
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Wow what a review - thank you so much, and that my friends is how to give a review.
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When I start the main unit ON again after it has been OFF, I need to push it once and nothing comes out, and THEN, when pushing a second time, nice and thick smoke comes out. Is it an air issue, I mean, some air needs to be pushed through the tubing to reach the vaporizer, and this needs about 3 seconds, just the time for one push... ?

Does this happen to you, too ?


Hey !

sorry to hear that... my VAPR doesn’t do that.. mine has been “off position” all day... I’ve just tried it out and got good flow of thick smoke...

does your smoke run good after the first push of button ?

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Thank you "MAX88"! Great Review and perfect help!
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does your smoke run good after the first push of button ?

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Yes, perfectly, but only on the second push.
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I'm a noob with smoke device, and I ordered vapr should get it within a day or two ( was meant to be last week got delayed) hopefully nothing wrong happens.i believe my dealer did give a warranty. Anyways very helpful review. Btw you mean Gregory Wilson?


Yes , it is Gregory Wilson Pure Sm*ke training DVD.
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For the record, gents, this got delivered to me today, and it works just fine. It must be a complete ****ter to have a defective unit. My experience thus far chimes with the positive reviews. Let's hope it stays working for the foreseeable.
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For the record, gents, this got delivered to me today, and it works just fine. It must be a complete ****ter to have a defective unit. My experience thus far chimes with the positive reviews. Let's hope it stays working for the foreseeable.


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When I start the main unit ON again after it has been OFF, I need to push it once and nothing comes out, and THEN, when pushing a second time, nice and thick smoke comes out. Is it an air issue, I mean, some air needs to be pushed through the tubing to reach the vaporizer, and this needs about 3 seconds, just the time for one push... ?

Does this happen to you, too ?


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On 2013-12-09 13:19, doriancaudal wrote:
When I start the main unit ON again after it has been OFF, I need to push it once and nothing comes out, and THEN, when pushing a second time, nice and thick smoke comes out. Is it an air issue, I mean, some air needs to be pushed through the tubing to reach the vaporizer, and this needs about 3 seconds, just the time for one push... ?

Does this happen to you, too ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p85xwZ_OLX0

Have you tried turning it off and on again ?


Why would I turn it off as soon as I turned it on ?
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How long can I let the cartridge actually be on the heater coil, if "VAPR" is not used?
Should I remove the smoke cartridge for storing prefer or leave it? Got mine today and works perfect out of the Box.
Will play around with it now.
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I would also be interested to know how long it is possible to let the cartridge on the heater coil, when the device is not used for some days.
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"Max88" has already written most of it. Thanks for the great review. Very good help! Now that I've played around with it for a while, I must say that it really is very comfortable to wear. The smoke is nice and thick and long lasting. The battery still holds. Should I load it now? * hmmm * I wait, until the LEDs flash. Only the noise problem is such a thing. Yes, "VAPR" is a bit quieter than, for example, "Pure Smoke", but you can clearly hear in quiet rooms. Let's see what I find in the tool market ... Smile
Otherwise, until now a clear recommendation!
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"Max88" has already written most of it. Thanks for the great review. Very good help! Now that I've played around with it for a while, I must say that it really is very comfortable to wear. The smoke is nice and thick and long lasting. The battery still holds. Should I load it now? * hmmm * I wait, until the LEDs flash. Only the noise problem is such a thing. Yes, "VAPR" is a bit quieter than, for example, "Pure Smoke", but you can clearly hear in quiet rooms. Let's see what I find in the tool market ... Smile
Otherwise, until now a clear recommendation!


so glad to hear more positive reviews , so hopefully those horrid trolls will be eating their own words !!.

.. when your out and about performing... the very small noise will NOT be heard by YOU or YOUR specs.. just go out and enjoy VAPR !!!.. oh I leave my cartridge on the atomiser all the time..

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