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Smokeless in Seattle. The Vapr unit I received was a dud. Motor worked but after fully charging everything, there was no smoke. I'm assuming it's a faulty heating coil(the greeny/grey default cartridge was melted when I opened the box). I think I troubleshot everything(went through the Sansminds pdf, four different cartridges and many suggestions in this thread), to no avail. I'm gonna pack her up and send her back tomorrow, likely for a refund. A shame because I was looking forward to all the possibilities this product provides. I might change my mind and get a replacement but at this point I'm not so sure of its reliability.
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I own two of them for a parlour set up. This is the most reliable smoke device I've tried. And I own four other models from before. There's no comparison if you are looking over smoke device for magic effects. Get it replaced and I'm sure you'll have lots of use of it!
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On Jul 8, 2014, mastermindreader wrote:
Wear it under your pants and let the smoke emit from your fly. It would be a great ice breaker at parties.

Oooooooooooh you are devil Bob,lol.
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I had the idea to put it in my "Lily" the skunk and let it blow smoke out of it's back side.
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Thank you for your input AaronishMagic, you may have swayed my decision!
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When I went to take the Default cartridge off by pulling it gently, it pulled 1/2 of the heating coil off with it. So now I need a new heating coil. I want to keep it, as it is also the best smoke device I have ever seen. I wrote the company I bought it from and am awaiting a reply.
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I'm new here. I've read the majority of this thread and take away the somewhat childish arguments at times, it was an interesting read.

Here is my experience with Vapr thus far.

The only smoke device I have owned prior is MSv1. Didn't even bother to set it up as you had to go out and buy the chemicals. It was 8 years ago and I was lazy. So I don't have an honest opinion of it as I never used it. That was on me and I'm sure it would have been fantastic.

Anyway I ordered Vapr in January from WMS. It arrived after about 4 months. And it worked for.. 2 puffs.. then nothing. The amount of effort to find the troubleshoot guide was horrendous.

Returned the unit and a week later got it back. It was a faulty heater coil. It worked.. yay.. for 3 puffs.

I contacted Sans Minds and they said if I bought something from their site they would send me a free heater coil. I told them where to go. No response. I order 3 spare heater coils and a vapouriser anyhow. They sent me an add on to Photoshop free. I don't call that good customer service

I took my unit into WMS personally and spent some time with them trying to fix it but it just didn't work. So they agreed to send me a brand new one. Happy days but another month wait.

Arrived last week. charged all units. Thought charger was faulty as it wasn't charging the vapouriser properly.. had to fiddle with it. Didn't work at all.changed vapouriser. Worked for 2 puffs. Then nothing. Turns out ANOTHER faulty heater coil as well as faulty charger.

Changed heater coil. Worked for 1.. 2.. 3.. 4 NO WAY.. still going.. 2 days later.. still working. I count that a blessing.

So 7 months in!! it works like a dream.. beautiful clouds of smoke.. wireless works wonders.. It's brilliant and I love it

The DVD is shocking. 15 mins approx instructional to which they miss off so much vital information then plug ads for OVER AN HOUR. Criminal.

I can't write a full review it doesn't deserve it.

Vapr unit design: 9
Vapr smoke : 8
Wireless capability: 10
DVD: 3
Merchant help: 9
sans minds help: 2
Quality control : 1

I love Vapr and will be using it regularly and I appreciate that tech fails sometimes but the quality control is awful.

Bitter sweet: I love it and will use it often. Shame about the quality control

Overall: 96%
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Sounds frustrating I.D! You must be extremely unlucky to experience that. My two units work like a charm right out of the box.
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Yeh well these things happen. As it works now, and it works great that's all that matters.

I really like Vapr and just glad that I can use it. I have used it lots in the last couple of days.. mainly to amuse myself.. in practice I would only use it occasionally to enhance a moment
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On Jul 10, 2014, Acecardician wrote:
When I went to take the Default cartridge off by pulling it gently, it pulled 1/2 of the heating coil off with it. So now I need a new heating coil. I want to keep it, as it is also the best smoke device I have ever seen. I wrote the company I bought it from and am awaiting a reply.



I got a reply from the seller and they are sending me a new heater coil. I also bought a 3 pack for back up. I am all set now, can't wait!
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After reading all this I don't know if I will get one now. I have a zig zag vapor cig. It has a refillable chamber that has the heating coil inside it and some wicks. the whole unit costs $13.00 If you burn out the coil or run it dry you can replace that for $6. How hard could it be to hook a small tube and a pump to one??? Of course it would not have a remote but big deal. I am not trying to degrade anyone's product - I am just wondering if it is better to buy one or take a chance building one... It seems to me that by looking at pictures, of the vapr, the "cartridges" on the vapr are not clear/see through. Maybe the reason the heating coil is burning out is because the cartridge is empty???? also why cant you just take a cartridge and drill a small hole at the top, refile it, and just seal the hole? Head shops sell all kinds of liquid (non nicotine) for cigarettes that are very cheap. By the way earlier in the thread someone was talking about a unit that was supposed to be coming out that was going to be the VERY BEST unit out there... What ever happened to that?
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I don't think there is another smoke device coming out and if there was I think the project has been pulled. I consider it bad taste anyway for them to try and plug it in this thread.

Gregg, the heater coil didn't burn out in most cases because the cartridge was empty , it s just faulty heater coils. The last 30 puffs or so I would imagine would indicate a low cartridge.

I have read from numerous places that you can refill the cartridges with glycerin or glycerol, a bottle for about £8 and it only takes about two drops. Appatabtly it gives better smoke if you buy a good brand of smoke machine fluid but I can't verify that..

Vapr is definitely worth it, you just run the risk of electronics failures which do happen unfortunately. But if you get a working one.. It truly is amazing

On the catridges, I must have gone through about 60 puffs on my first catridge, quite a few long pressed just mucking about, and I'm still getting a good amount of thick smoke so they do seem to last a while, as I heard after around 50 puffs they are rubbish.

I don't like Sans Minds very Much and I am growing frustrated with the amount of crap they are putting out, catering to the youth mindset of needing the latest gadget whereas what they get is bottom drawer magic. Vapr is the only thing beside the CD prediction thing they did (which I never bought) that I think has any kind of real credibility. Photoshop is ok actually and have been surprised by its reactions. I have done it half heartedly to lots of people at work and in public, almost like some throwaway cheap trick when asked for something when I'm not in the mood. For some reason, it kills my audience and I really don't know why. I've had some amazing reactions and I don't get it as I think it's naff.
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ID thanks. I too think it is bad taste to hijack someones thread and to promote a similar product. The reason I posted that at the end was to bring attention to the fact that some one did this and it never came to be. Just my sarcastic way of pointing that out... Anyways Like I said I don't have but I do have e cigs, I have seen many people mess up their e cigs by not using it properly, or overcharging etc etc. The reason for my post was to try to determine if all the problems that have been posted were mostly because the product really is defective or if most of the problems were due to Magician error. Im not worried about the vapr not working one night because as I see it I will only use it as an enhancement to a trick. So if it does not work the trick will still work. I am just worried that if the heating coils are burning up constantly that it will start eating away at the wallet. THANKS for your reply, most helpful.
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Well I found a Vapr at a really good price, so I thought "what the heck" lets give it a try. It arrived this morning. My take on this is:
The packaging is way over done I would rather a simple package and get the product for less money. Same with the CD it took forever to get through all the ads for your other products.
The unit is built very well, yes the main box does make some noise but I don't think anyone will hear it especially if I am talking while it is activated.
The only time the smoke was a little "weak" was on the first try after that it does really good. So before you do a show just fire it up once before preforming.
I had a problem at first trying to screw the Vapr into the charger. he trick here is NOT to force it. Make sure it is aligned properly and if the fine threads are a little dirty Just screw the heater coil on and off a couple of times to ensure the threads are straight, then retry it in the charger
Watch the video twice especially the FAQ and you will have no problems. It is pretty straight forward. All the switches work properyly and all the lights function as they are supposed too.
The only complaint I would have (other than wasting money on packaging and promotions) is that the charger should have two out lets so you can charge the main unit and the remote at the same time.
With in an hour of getting the thing, I did the ice cube trick on my wife (shown on the DVD) and it really got a good reaction. While this may not be a stand alone trick it is definitely going to enhance several of the things I already do, making them look even more magical.
Thanks Guys - Job well done.
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After using Vapr and Smokey Magic V.2from Trevor Duffy, SMV2 is WAY better than Vapr.

Unless you want the remote control of course.
Get yourself the Flap Cards guide : http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/4435

Make sure to check my review website, new reviews coming every week ! http://lesavisdalexis.wix.com/reviews
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A few months after not using my Vapr, I was going to use it. Tried it. No smoke. Ok, I thought I'll charge it. Tried to unscrew the battery and it wouldn't come off. Used two pliers, but still wouldn't come off. All I did was ruining the coating. Still not been able to remove the battery. So, now I'm having a very expensive piece of junk that's useless. I don't know if it's possible to get replacement parts for this? The pump and the remote still works, but that's all.
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Replacement parts are available on SansMinds's website .
" Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one " ...

- Albert Einstein
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Oh stupid me. I forgot it was reverse threaded. I may have destroyed it now. Right now I'm trying to charge it and see if it still works...
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If it still works . Then SansMinds has superb quality products lol ... If after the battery is being " damaged " . Haha ...
" Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one " ...

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Hello everyone! I had just received my vapr unit, and after watching the dvd and putting all together, I had try it a couple of puffs with two different cartidges (just in case) but the quantity of the smoke is almost not noticeable. Any other of you has no vapor with vapr?...
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