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Kune
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I just got mine, and the first 10 puffs or so were great, but now barely anything is coming out. I'm not sure if I used up the cartridge, if the device needs more charging, or something else. I'll have to try some things out and see. I hope the cartridges don't empty that quickly, otherwise I'd have to change them several times for a night of table hopping.
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I tried it again over 24 hours later, and the same cartridge was giving plenty of smoke again. Probably the battery just needed to be charged more.
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So I have spent a considerable amount of time browsing this thread and troubleshooting this device because I refused to believe that they are all defective. I had the same problems that many of you had. I charged it out of the box, it worked for a while and then stopped. Then, after much toying with it, it would work again for a while and then it would stop again. I checked all the components against a working model in order to compare. Swapped each and every piece out and figured out what the problem was (at least for myself). The problem lies in the cartridges.

The cartridges consist of three parts.
1. The outer black shell (or green if it is the intial cartridge already on the device.)
2. The internal (white) plastic piece that holds the Glycol compound.
3. The cotton piece inside the white plastic piece which is saturated with oil.

The problem I discovered is that the cotton soaked in the Glycol oil can end up too high in the cartridge causing the heating coil to dry out and not allowing for new oil to saturate the unit. I remedied the problem by using a paperclip to pull the cotton out of the white plastic piece (and leaving the white plastic piece inside the outer black shell), placing the cotton directly on the heating coil, and then reinserting the heating coil into the black plastic cartridge (and the white plastic piece at the same time as this holds the excess oil).

This solved the problem for me and provided smoke that was almost as thick, if not the same, as the smoke in the video trailers.

Hope this helps you guys!
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Just got my Vapr unit. Did what was told on the DVD, turned clockwise on the heater coil but nothing happens. Seems like it is stuck in there. Anyone know what I can do?
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Hi,
Anyone know of a UK stockist that stocks the charger? I lost mine and I don't particularly want to order another at $20 plus postage.
It's a real shame they didn't make it a universal charger instead of all that fluff about 'not wanting people to use it like e-cigarettes''.
I suspect I shall have to order directly from Sans Minds.
Hmmpff.
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I too have purchased a vapr unit and after about 20 minutes of short bursts, the green cartridge ran out - which I understand as it's just a "shipped with" cartridge. I replaced with a black cartridge, making sure to unscrew the opposite way to normal, and I had more smoke, which I played with for another 1/2 hour.
However, after giving it a full 8 hour charge overnight, I tried to use it tonight, and am not getting any vapr. Units are blue lit, remote works well, and I've also tried the pull the cotton out a little so it comes into direct contact with the heating element tip. I tried another cartridge just in case, but still nothing.
Now, last night, as I read about replacing coil issues, I ordered 2 elements from sansminds as backups. Do you think the problem is the heating coil so soon? I didn't think I'd have to replace it after 1 nights use!
If it's not the coil, what else could it be?
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You can prime the heater coil, they say to get the liquid out of the cotton but I just put a drop of glycerin in there to kick start it if ever it stops.

If it does not work after priming then it must be something else.

The cartridges are just pull off it's the heater coil that is reverse threaded.

There is a link to this on our website http://www.saturnmagic.co.uk/new-magic/v......nds.html
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You will know if the heater coil is defective as after you press the trigger a few times, you should be able to feel the heat coming through the main body of the unit near where the heater coil is. If this does not get warm it could be the heater coil is not working. If it is working and warm, then do as above and make sure the cotton wool is on the coil and let soak into the coil and v guard.
Hope that helps
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I might too be the connection problems . Try to see if there's liquid on the connecting ends . On an occasion I had liquid from the cartridge leak out accidentally and it did not function consistently until I whipped of the excess liquid ...
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Thanks for the replies guys. I pulled the cotton out of the older cartridge, and added it to the newer cartridge, also fired up the element until it started smoking with the oil already on it, and seems to be working fine now. What a great little device.
Also, just my 2 cents, but I think it's not meant to be operated in an upside down position, that is, with the smoky end pointing up, maybe too much oil drips out and floods the coil? Seems to work better with the smoky end down...
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Anyone know if I can get a Vapr at magicland in tokyo? they don't have a website so...
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On Oct 2, 2015, Cartman wrote:
Anyone know if I can get a Vapr at magicland in tokyo? they don't have a website so...

Why vapr? Mystery Smoke is MUCH better IMHO Smile

www.mysterysmoke.com. They ship internationally. You might have to e-mail them for a shipping quote.

Best,

Neil.
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I feel like there's going to be another smoke effect coming out soon that's going to be more efficient than this one. I feel like this one has more errors and trial and errors with coils than most people care to deal with.
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I like mystery smoke,the best effect smoke:short sleeves,classic version, vanish objets, more smoke mystery smoke is the best.www.scacciapensieri.eu-www.mysterysmoke.com
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Vapr has its place and it very good but I prefer Smokey Magic V2 its simple effective and requires no charging up at all and is great for strolling and close up.

The fact its so simple means there is very little to go wrong. http://www.saturnmagic.co.uk/new-magic/s......ick.html
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gavaro
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Mystery smoke new device 2015 fism italy sold out
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Any one interested in Mystery Smoke for a good deal? Bought it off a friend mint condition, willing to let go at a good price. Please PM.
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On Oct 7, 2015, ReviewerMaster wrote:
Any one interested in Mystery Smoke for a good deal? Bought it off a friend mint condition, willing to let go at a good price. Please PM.


I have bought the fism for me is much batter than other devices
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Purchased Vapr a few months ago and, although the concept is awesome I'm just finding the setup, and (albeit minor)noise issue just doesn't work for my strolling magic set. Does anyone else find the components to be an issue with prop management and execution of other routines? Maybe I just need to work with it more.
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Just for your information:
I bought (second hand) a spare remote for my VAPR.
I found out that you cannot use two remotes at the same time with your unit.
Several main units can be used at the same time with ONE remote, but you can't use several remotes with one unit at the same time.
You can have a second remote but when you want to use it, you have to pair it with the main unit and then your original remote will not work anymore until you pair that one again. Every remote has apparently a unique code and the main unit can't handle more than one code it seems.
Not a big deal, but good to know.
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