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I am looking for a routine for Jumbo 3 Card Monte to use as a springboard for creating my own routine. I am using the Japanese plastic 3 card set. Any suggestions?
Thanks!
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I really like Harry Anderson's 3 Card Prince. It works really well for me.

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Don't get a jumbo Michael Skinners, you'll need a MUCH bigger thumb.. heh
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I do Sidewalk Shuffle - works great for me.
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Actually, Skinners version can be found as a jumbo trick. It was manufactured and sold almost a decade before Skinner started doing it! The trick or gimmicks used are not original to Skinner.

It was part of Leslie Drake’s Cabaret act. It was later (1976) used by Peter Pit in an award-winning act. It was produced and sold by Supreme Magic first as the “Streamlined Three Card Trick” in their first catalogue (this is the source of Skinner’s trick and also Mike Rogers version it). The Jumbo version was called “Giant Size Clever Ace”.

The Supreme version was the first to use contrasting colors (red ace of diamonds and black two and three of clubs). There is a clever move and a simple device that hides the dirty deed. The device is part of the longer routine. It is a modified Bulldog clip that “marks” the ace (and hides what needs to be hidden).

The jumbo cards measure nine inches by 13 and three quarters inches. The cards are a very heavy stock, are plastic coated and have rounded corners. It is a great trick!
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Harry, I agree whole-heartedly with you on the Supreme version. I bought that version years ago at a Peter Pit lecture which included all of his notes on the special handling you described. Smile Smile A big Two Thumbs Up for this effect!! If you look closely at my avatar, you'll see that I am proudly displaying these cards. Smile
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Oh yes! You have them! You are one of the few left that actually uses them. The Peter Pit handling makes it a great effect and a real fooler.

In my opinion they are as strong as or even stronger than Andersons Monarch/Prince routine. My set is getting a bit worn from use (and I baby them!). I keep my eyes open on the used magic sites for a set in good condition. They rarely come up. It is too bad that they are not being made anymore!
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Harry,
Which version is best for the street, where the angles are uncontrollable?

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James, without a doubt the “Giant Size Clever Ace” is the one that can be performed without worry about angles. There is nothing to see from the back except the backside of the cards. I have used this trick in clubs where I was almost surrounded and on the streets where the audience could get behind me without worry. There is nothing to see.

However Anderson’s Monarch/Prince cannot be allowed to be seen from the rear. There IS something to see there. Angles are more critical and less forgiving. You would really have to use your body for blocking using the trick on the street.

I don’t remember the dimensions of Anderson’s “Three Card Monarch” but the cards for “Three Card Prince” (the smaller version and the one I use) is 11 inches by 16 inches. The cards are printed on plastic stock and are fairly weather impervious.

The Supreme trick is printed on heavy plastic coated cardboard material. My set is over 20 years old and regularly used. I keep them protected and wipe them off after use. Even so, they are starting to show their age with the odd frayed corner and a slight yellowing of the faces of the cards. I really need to get a couple of new(er) sets!
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Harry is the Supeme trick only a colored version of Chase the Ace from Ken Brooke and Repo in England.

I always thought that was the case so I never purchased the Supeme trick.

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Bill, the Brooke/Repo “Chase the Ace” trick used the DeLand (1908) version of gaffed cards (without credit).

The Supreme trick was based on their own “Streamlined Three Card Trick” invented by Leslie Drake. Leslie used the contrasting color fake or gimmick. Leslie built the trick in both regular and Jumbo size cards. Supreme put it out in the Jumbo and later the Giant (four times jumbo size) size. It has two different gimmicked cards.

The Supreme version was always made with a red ace. It was from this idea that Mike Skinner and Mike Rogers built their clever Monte routines (borrowing the gimmick idea of course).

I guess the answer is yes the Brooke’s version and the Supreme versions are similar. If Brooke's version works for you then there is no reason to buy another.
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I just liked the idea of a colored Ace to track. Years ago I seen a stack that came in from England at Abbott's. The effect read the same so I never jumped on it and now Supreme is no longer.

I always felt they would not have not gone out of business with proper advertising of all the un-usual items they carried. I had at one time their catalogue's and they really had stuff that would sell if anyone knew about it. Like the Richard Ross, vanishing cane gimmick or a real stack of pence with a really quality leather cone.

Thanks for the info.
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You may want to try Harry's Monte Gras. I used to have the giant Monte Monarch and although it was great to do I really enjoyed doing the ungimmicked Monte Gras. Its really neat to be able to toss the cards out or hand the cards out to have the people check the cards out. To see their reaction is really kewl. I think Hollywood Magic still has a few sets yet and perhaps a couple other companies have some sets. Just try out a few of them and figure out which one is the best for you. Good luck to you.

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Illusions,

Contact Abbott's to see if they will sell you the instructions only to Find the Lady, Stage trick. It uses the same type gimmick, but the cards are made of wood and cardboard.

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Need HELP with Harry Anderson's Three (3) card Prince (Monarch) HELP
I have the Prince version of this set that I got when it came out, but I have yet to be able to work through it, even using a mirror or video camera.
I am a visual learner, is there a video version of the instructions?
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On Jun 26, 2016, DrNorth wrote:
Need HELP with Harry Anderson's Three (3) card Prince (Monarch) HELP
I have the Prince version of this set that I got when it came out, but I have yet to be able to work through it, even using a mirror or video camera.
I am a visual learner, is there a video version of the instructions?




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On Dec 24, 2003, illusions & reality wrote:
I am looking for a routine for Jumbo 3 Card Monte to use as a springboard for creating my own routine. I am using the Japanese plastic 3 card set. Any suggestions?
Thanks!



Check to see if Abbott's has their 3 Card Monte routine by Percy Abbott available for download. They provide the instructions for their old tricks they use to manufacturer.

This is an excellent routine for stage. Way back in the early days, many magicians perform this stage routine. Excellent material.
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Steven still sells CHASE THE ACE, See me on Magic Palace (scroll to no 25)
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Hey Pete, the Original Post by illusion and Reality was concerning the old 3 Card Monte that Owen and Abbott's made and sold for years. You know the one, wood frame court cards.

Now with the invention of plastic material, they are much better made and look very deceptive. Thing is not much of a routine comes with them. Thus the best I seen is Abbott's routine, with humor built in.

Dr. North has taken the topic off track, but his question is for something totally different then Chase The Ace. It was trying to learn Harry Anderson's routine.

As far as Chase the Ace routines and handlings, I think Joe Monte's version "Three Card Joe" is better then Ken Brooke's because Ken sold it as close-up trick and the handling needed a table. Joe does it on stage, it is the most expensive though. I read the quality of the cards supplied by Joe Monte was not the best, but I believe they are not longer available anyway.


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I came here from a search for the Supreme "giant size clever ace"
Lybrary.com just added a pdf complete with templates to print the giant sized cards.

https://www.lybrary.com/giant-size-clever-ace-p-923106.html
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