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I just finished a walkaround gig for a local charity's outdoor movie night, and one of the biggest hits of the night was my very simple ring on rope routine (really just two phases from Aldo Columbini's Ringing Around Too). I used Aldo's rope but substituted a 3 inch chrome harness ring and went through popping the ring through the center of the rope followed by popping it onto the center again through a loose overhand knot in the rope. I did it probably ten or fifteen times for various small groups, and I have to say kids (especially 7-10 year olds) and grown ups alike dropped their jaws again and again. Simple, easy to carry, and truly magical.
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I couldn't agree more.

Ring and Rope is now my go to effect for when I'm asked to do a little something in Magic events.

I use a 3" brass harness ring which is a beautiful object with a nice heft and 3/4" Magician's Rope.

I have made a full routine up of bits and pieces but I really like that you can do one or two and interact with people rather than perform the whole routine in close quarters.

It plays well in many venues.

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I love doing ring on rope while
the spectators hold the ends of
the rope and my hands are covered
while doing the magic.I first learned
this from a book by Mark Wilson.
This effect kill's when you borrow a
wedding band from a spectator.
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I generally carry two shoelaces with me, and Nick Einhorn's nest of wallets. Aldo's moves are great and one of his moves works very well with the nest of wallets. I also like Greg Wilson's moves. There is another fun move, and I can't remember who's it is where the string is held in your hand and moved to one finger. It jumps from being around one finger to another. I use two laces to do this as a do-as-I-do. I don't carry a ring, but rather use a borrowed finger ring or my own. the borrowed ring is really something with the next of wallets.
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That's awesome. I have Ringing Around 2 and Still ringing. Lots of good stuff there.
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You can do some truly magical things with Ring & Rope/Ring & String. I do a number of different versions and quite often, I combine those effects/routines with some rope/string-only effects from Enigma (by Paulino Gil and Luis de Matos) and Enclavor et Liberator (by Duraty).
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I, too, often mix Ring & Rope with elements from my rope repertoire. I love the versatility, as Mary mentioned, of being able to to a single effect or combine in many ways to create routines that fit the moment and the situation.
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So... where can you get a great looking 3" Brass Ring for less than $5 ????

Go Here: http://www.reefscuba.com/brass_rings.htm

You're welcome.

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I use a long shoestring for ring on a rope. It is colorful plus rather thin which I find works well when you are handed a small ring with which to perform.
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On 2013-11-25 20:16, sdmagic wrote:
So... where can you get a great looking 3" Brass Ring for less than $5 ????

Go Here: http://www.reefscuba.com/brass_rings.htm

You're welcome.

sdmagic




Thanks for the web site
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It's probably not the ring and rope that "kills" but your pleasure in performing it that "kill" (what a horrible verb to refer to an audience that we are trying to enchant and be loved by)
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On Jan 27, 2015, Lawrence O wrote:
It's probably not the ring and rope that "kills" but your pleasure in performing it that "kill" (what a horrible verb to refer to an audience that we are trying to enchant and be loved by)



There you go revealing one of the REAL secrets of magic -- two actually.

The magic that occurs in the mind of an observer can hardly by greater that that which you communicate from within yourself.

Of course, "fooling people" and "create a puzzle" or confusion are fairly easy. Magic is bit more difficult, or as easy as the smile in your eyes.

There is no doubt of your love of the art, SIr -- and magic does distill like dew from thy heart and pen.

and of the ring and rope? Why do these simple things focus attention and stir the soul? Methinks these effects may predate the Cups in truth

for a ring represents eternal truth and cyclical history and continuity and more ...

while the rope is feckless man, apparently weak and at loose ends, but strong in resistant against opposition or resolute in pulling towards a noble cause.

Ahh, the stories one can enchant with the bonding of the man and spirit, and man's failure to sustain the bond ...

or do we simple assist each person to remember who they really are -- and can be again?
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Lawrence! Look what you've done! You've gotten Ken to wax eloquent! (Hee Hee!

But, seriously folks... (as the comedians used to say!!!)I

IDK where the term "kill" really started. Possibly, it came from "backstage argot" used by stage hands, or by stage managers TO stagehands. (e.g.: "OK boys, kill that set!"

The old vaudeville "good luck wish": "Break a leg", also sounds "negative" (especially to a dance act.)

I've heard "kill" used for years. But, in deference to Lawrence's feelings, I shall make an effort to stop using "kill".

KEN: Beautiful statement!

Only, I must now "repair to the Funk & Wagnall's" and check out "feckless"!!! --hee hee

Best wishes to "da bodaya"! (translation: "the both of you".)

O
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Of course, I (me) get very "tired" of hearing "awesome"!
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Here is my ring and string medley
this small routine can be done with any size ring
http://youtu.be/Jb2R8r29BZA


the moves are all mine
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I got started using my AWESOME ring and rope routine back in the early '60s, when my late friend, Dennis Loomis, said, "SEPHALALJIA"! I think that I met the late Stewart James that year at Abbott's GTG. Then, another late friend, Jack Chanin got "blamed" for "introducing" the "Get Together Ring & Rope". He used a "square" ring. Some have said that Liko Pang had actually "invented" it, bur the basio principle is certainly from Stewart James. If I remember, the late Anverdi also included a ring and ribbon penetration in his lecture when I saw him at the '64 IBM in NYC. --but Anverdi used a thr**d to do the "work". I do remember asking Anverdi, at his booth, after the lecture, to clarify his handling for his ring and ribbon, but he refused. He said, "You wont do it anyway!" Well, someone there showed me what I needed to know.

Denny Loomis later showed me a very neat variation that he attributed to the late Walt Rollins. It doesn't kill (oops) magicians, but, it does make them say, "Hey!"

I now only use two rings for Walt's idea. I usta use five. It made a "pretty" sight when I "dealt" them out on the table! (Artie Kidwell--Cincinnati--loves it, He says it's AWESOME!

Since those days, Aldo, and I think, Daryl (many others, too, cf. Dr. Ayala's post above) )have added some darn good ideas. I just remembered that my late old friend Phil Willmarth wrote a whole book on rings and ropes!

Okito's "OHO" is a clever bit that is not often seen. Magic Inc. still sells it, I'm sure. It came with a 4" and a 6" ring. I found a 3and 5/16" that nests inside the 4" and is easier to carry. It's not AWESOME, but it is a nice, noisy, visual bit that I sometimes use to finish the routine.

Every one above on this thread has "endorsed" ring and rope routines. I should like to join their company!

P.S. >>>MOTLEY! I use the ring tossed into the "loose" overhand knot, also, but it follows throwing the ring, and tying the knot simultaneously, so that the ring is tied into the knot. Then, I remove the ring, and leave the knot still tied in the rope. THEN, I toss the ring back into the knot. This may sound AWESOME, but, we old Scouters know a little about knots, --and, we need to keep ahead of the Tenderfoot(s)! hee hee!

Sometimes I carry two ropes, one red, and one white. For the "encore" to ring and rope, I do a bit that I first saw Jack Hart do st a little convention in Californis. It's #43 in Karl Fulves' "Self Working Table Magic". I think the principle was originally in Stewart James manuscript, "Sefalalgia" (late 1930s?). It was in the PHOENIX magazine, too. Jack Avis is credited by Fulves for the routine done on a table under cover of a handkerchief. Jack Hart showed it to me with two ropes BEHIND his neck. I THINK that that's the way Stewart James showed it in SEFALALGIA". Anyway, although, it's not angle proof, behind the neck, it's good, --and, it does kill them!(OOPS AGAIN!

--YUP! RING AND ROPE "MEETS" >>ALL<< OF MY CRITERIA!
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Dennis was a GOOD FRIEND OF MINE about a month before he passed I asked him for his ring and rope vhs tape . he sent me it on dvd his dvd on ropes is the very best,, I sure miss him
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Thank you all for bringing this back up. I do agree with Lawrence that "killing" the audience is a harsh phrase, and I don't really use it often. And I also agree that the best magic--the stuff that delights the audience most--is the magic we ourselves watch happen in our hands and share in the amazement. Ken's poetic addendum actually has me thinking about the routine in a new light as well, Dick & Vinny, thanks for sharing your own work & your memories. Anything anyone has to share on ring & rope (publicly or privately) is always appreciated. I carry it everywhere and would love to learn more.

David (Motley Mage)
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Hi Dave contact Glenn Morphew he has a teriffic routine with a 4inch ring and rope that he sells
you can find nim here on the Café
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On Jan 31, 2015, vinsmagic wrote:
Hi Dave contact Glenn Morphew he has a teriffic routine with a 4inch ring and rope that he sells
you can find nim here on the Café
vinny

Hey Vinny thank you for the lead. I was able to find that routine along with a bunch of other great looking DVD's on Glen's web site
https://sites.google.com/site/glennmorphew/magicians-only
Lots of good video demos too!
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