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This is a great thread! A lot of fun reading through here.

Mine is superfluous patter or what I call narrating patter: As in "Here's an ordinary deck of playing cards. I'll shuffle the cards and give you an absolutely free choice of any card here. Put the card back in the deck anywhere you want. Is that where you want it? Ok, so I'll shuffle the deck again and now your card is lost in the deck. Now, watch as I touch both sides of the deck with my magic wand, and viola, your card is now on top of the pack as if by magic."
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When American magicians assume everyone else in the world know what a dime, nikel, quarter, half dollar, look like.
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How about the lame followup to the previously mentioned "ordinary deck of cards" where the magi says "All the cards are different, yes?" Um yeah, why wouldn't they be?

And the other one I hear constantly, "For the first time, please tell us the name of the card you've been thinking of?" Really, it's just the first time? Ridiculous and it's not just hacks I see doing this, plenty of pros who should know better.
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The idea that if an effect is strong/powerful enough the audience will not want to look at/inspect the props.

Calling skeptical and curious spectators hecklers.
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Lord_wallmotto: Yes, there's a financial incentive for this myth to persist - It's used to sell inferior magic. "You should buy definitely buy this right now without considering whether it's examinable. If you have trouble with that, it's your fault for having 'poor audience-management skills'."
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Yes wallmotto, I appreciate your message. Because sometimes the STRONGER the effect, (quick and visual) the more a spectator intuitively knows something is not normal..... This is what solid, clean switches come in. For instance in rope magic you have miracles done with trick ropes. But the errant assumption you mentioned has kept magi from developing good switches in this area. Nothing quite beats a miracle followed by passing that item out.
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Old, tired routines.

Magic with props no one ever sees in real life, which includes "classic" magic with props that used to be common objects but have fallen out of use.
"Dana Douglas is the greatest magician alive. Plus, I'm drunk." -- Foster Brooks
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On Dec 20, 2018, danaruns wrote:
Magic with props no one ever sees in real life, which includes "classic" magic with props that used to be common objects but have fallen out of use.

This times a million.
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The multitude of routines based on the four aces. Seems a bit obsessive, no?
Instructional videos where during the explanation, the instructor continues to shuffle, riffle, and/or cut the cards in a manner unrelated to the sleight or trick being explained. I find that this irrelevant extraneous activity distracts attention away from the instructions. For a newbie like myself that is very frustrating.
And, of course, sleights that I cannot seem to master. Smile
So many little time.

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