On 2014-01-07 21:07, SUAREZ wrote:
I Like WMS, but Craig does not practice what he preaches .. a bit of a David Cameron type character.

On 2014-01-07 20:46, David Cheetham wrote:

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On 2014-01-07 20:43, janu7 wrote:
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Thanks for that Ian. I actually do not answer to people talking like this, because it is not worth the effort. They seem to have lost categories of basic human thinking. An opinion can not have a status, it can be shared by others or not. Every ones opinion is bound to be subjective. So if he rate or evaluate my opinion, it is nothing else than another subjective act. There is no way, that my opinion could count less than another.

Mike has been on another detective tour, thanks for that. Does it really matter what I said before? Yes I said he should confront Craig Petty, and I am sure he did. But that is only the first, emotional reaction to a matter like that, then second, you should start thinking rational after the emotional part. The problem no is, that 80% of the people here are still emotional, and will never get aut of it, because because they never learned that…….

I am sure I forgot something, but I'll get back to you

Best regards

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On 2014-01-07 19:48, Iain1986 wrote:
My god this is like Reddit or something.

Someone only has 6 posts so his "opinion doesn't count", people announcing someone has been fired because there name isn't on webpage (only to be told it never has been a post or so later).

All I'm seeing now are people bickering and attacking each other.

Someone so much as sticks up or gives a neutral opinion towards Craig or WMS and they are pretty much told they aren't welcome here in as many words (I've seen posts with people being told to go and not come back, or to maybe turn around and leave as they won't like it here) but the same 3 or 4 people just repeat their same points again patting each other on the back for now 27 pages.

Nothing is being achieved. Everyone is bickering.


Is this what this forum is like?

You are making a lot of assumptions, sunshine. I think what people, perhaps rudely, are telling you is that they really don't care what you think about it.

On 2014-01-07 21:15, David Cheetham wrote:
Oh come off it. This is nobody's fault but their own. If you don't care about ethics in this community, I won't be losing any sleep. So many people don't care, it's laughable.

On 2014-01-07 21:18, janu7 wrote:
So you dear David seem to have no Idea how a discourse works. If you say a thing you have to underpin it with arguments, otherwise it is just empty, in this case an insult. Insults are signs of lack of ability to discuss argumentative….

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On 2014-01-07 20:46, David Cheetham wrote:

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On 2014-01-07 20:43, janu7 wrote:
Hi

Thanks for that Ian. I actually do not answer to people talking like this, because it is not worth the effort. They seem to have lost categories of basic human thinking. An opinion can not have a status, it can be shared by others or not. Every ones opinion is bound to be subjective. So if he rate or evaluate my opinion, it is nothing else than another subjective act. There is no way, that my opinion could count less than another.

Mike has been on another detective tour, thanks for that. Does it really matter what I said before? Yes I said he should confront Craig Petty, and I am sure he did. But that is only the first, emotional reaction to a matter like that, then second, you should start thinking rational after the emotional part. The problem no is, that 80% of the people here are still emotional, and will never get aut of it, because because they never learned that…….

I am sure I forgot something, but I'll get back to you

Best regards

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On 2014-01-07 19:48, Iain1986 wrote:
My god this is like Reddit or something.

Someone only has 6 posts so his "opinion doesn't count", people announcing someone has been fired because there name isn't on webpage (only to be told it never has been a post or so later).

All I'm seeing now are people bickering and attacking each other.

Someone so much as sticks up or gives a neutral opinion towards Craig or WMS and they are pretty much told they aren't welcome here in as many words (I've seen posts with people being told to go and not come back, or to maybe turn around and leave as they won't like it here) but the same 3 or 4 people just repeat their same points again patting each other on the back for now 27 pages.

Nothing is being achieved. Everyone is bickering.


Is this what this forum is like?

You are making a lot of assumptions, sunshine. I think what people, perhaps rudely, are telling you is that they really don't care what you think about it.

On 2014-01-07 21:24, MichaelMann wrote:
28 pages of this? Seriously? It's just a stupid card trick.

On 2014-01-07 21:24, MichaelMann wrote:
28 pages of this? Seriously? It's just a stupid card trick.

On 2014-01-07 21:48, Aaron Smith Magic wrote:

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On 2014-01-07 21:24, MichaelMann wrote:
28 pages of this? Seriously? It's just a stupid card trick.

Uh-oh..... http://youtu.be/8IPzpaD4UOE?t=35s

On 2014-01-07 22:09, jconstantine wrote:

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On 2014-01-07 21:48, Aaron Smith Magic wrote:

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On 2014-01-07 21:24, MichaelMann wrote:
28 pages of this? Seriously? It's just a stupid card trick.

Uh-oh..... http://youtu.be/8IPzpaD4UOE?t=35s

Ok now that was funny. You made me spit out my drink.

On 2014-01-07 20:48, janu7 wrote:
Hi Rasmus

Sorry, but I think you should call a doctor. We have good ones in Switzerland…

Get Better, regards

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On 2014-01-07 19:40, rasmus wrote:

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On 2014-01-07 19:31, janu7 wrote:
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On this thread I read posts like: He tried to steal something and got caught.

So you think, that Craig with his knowledge of magic, long experience and status would really have thought about trying to cheat on the magic community and with luck getting away with it??? Do you think, that he really speculated that no one would know Bob Kings Trick?? People, I think your logic failed badly!! No one, that is so dedicated to magic like Craig, and no one who really gets angry about badly credited products and useless junk would do such a thing intentionally. The USA can do that buy saying: Let's listen to all phone calls in the world, maybe we'll get away with it. Yes they can, because they are too big to fail, and won't have to take big measures when it gets out or take responsibility. Craig has as member of the WPR, WMS, the (small) magic community and himself.

Your criticism doesn't match up, try again.

Best wishes

pretty weird, that you have the nerves to comment in this thread because of the fact, that you have only 6 posts in
total and the last 4 posts were exactly in this thread.

I don't think that your opinion really counts my friend.

just my 5 swiss francs

On 2014-01-07 22:32, judgehiker wrote:
Hey, I just invented a new trick. It is an invisible deck using R&S. I have been checking with other magicians and have been assured nothing like it has ever been marketed. I am only taking "pre-orders." There will be no trailors. I don't need any criticism on no *** trailors. Just send me your money. I
would also like to apologize in advance in the oft chance anyone has thought of something similar before me. I have this friend who sometimes used to impersonate me on my own computer. I cannot be sure of the liklihood of that occuring though. I am also embarrassed, but I am not certain why. If you have any criticism, I want you to know I deserve it. No excuses.na