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Daniel J. Ferrara Jr. Regular user Long Island, New York 182 Posts |
Aren't we supossed to look out for fellow magicians? When you go to a magic convention, you don't watch a performance and then rip it apart.
Blaine and Angel are both performers. They are both very successful and I enjoyed all of their specials. I pretty much enjoy watching magic in general, so it doesn't really matter who is performing. I love it when people ask me if I am as good as David Blaine. It validates me as a magician when I am able to perform an illusion that they saw on a TV special. Anyone who "hates" either one of these performers is obviously jealous of their success. |
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Kathryn Novak Special user PA 574 Posts |
Both. I'd jump at the chance to see either one of them, if only to learn what they do right during an actual performance and what I can avoid doing in the future that they do wrong. There is a lot to be learned by merely watching those two.
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kerpa Special user Michael Miller 594 Posts |
I like em both. If they were smart, they'd figure out how to do something together. Now THAT would be interesting...
kerpa a/k/a Mike Miller Chicago area
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Dan McLean Jr aka, Magic Roadie Special user Toronto, Canada 804 Posts |
I like watching the close-up stuff by both of them, but I'd LOVE to see Chris Angel's stage show! I LOVE the theatrics of it!
Dan McLean Jr
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Necromance New user Pattingham, UK 53 Posts |
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On 2003-12-30 16:02, Jordan Piper wrote: The only reason Blaine was in the news so much was because of his attention-seeking publicity stunts. There was nothing in the least bit magical about these stunts and he was only in it for the attention, and the money. Also, Blaine may do good tricks, but I for one am not a fan of his presentation skills-he just seems so boring and bland.
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic-Arthur C. Clarke
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Kathryn Novak Special user PA 574 Posts |
You have to consider Blaine's target audience when it comes to his presentation style. Most of his target market aren't going to sit still for half an hour while a magician weaves an intricate story to produce several effects or perform an escape. They a) don't have the time, and b) don't have the patience for something like that. They want to see the magic or escape, pay the magician, and then go along their merry way. Doesn't leave much time for an interesting build up to the effects.
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
Who's Blaine and Angel? Are they a rock group?
So nice to get thoses senior moments.
Dennis Michael
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LordM Loyal user Portugal 232 Posts |
Blaine didn't bring anything new to magic. He just has a tv show. There's a lot of magicians out there that I believe that are much better than him altought they don't own tv shows.. The man doesent do anything new. We all know the kind of stuff he does , and the patter.. "watch watch, look, look.."
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Chris Gold New user 83 Posts |
This has got to be the dumbest post I've ever read. You people are arguing over who's who.
I'm glad I wasted 10 minutes reading this.
Chris Gold
TS Entertainment INC Hollywood, CA |
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Nyama Possessor Veteran user Under the Shade Tree 322 Posts |
I will second that! You cats must really have know lives! Who cares about who better, do us all a favor and contribute something to the magic community instead of babbling back and forth!
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Necromancer Inner circle Chicago 3076 Posts |
Gentlemen, are we in high school?
It shoudn't be a question of who is better. Both performers are professionals who have fostered distinctive personea and have found substantial audiences who appreciate their work. So if, like me, you do not have your own off-Broadway show or television special, the question should be "What can we learn from their examples?" Here are my contributions (feel free to build on them): What We Can Learn From David Blaine * Another way to envision the role of magician (in his case, as a slightly unfocused urban shaman). * Consistency of approach in the support of the above image. He does not do big illusions (apparently); he exposes people to the impossible on a personal level, through close-up performances and through oversized personal trials (which he may have been leaning too heavily on in the overall scheme of things, hence the backlash). * The power of showing minimal reaction at the end of an effect and of not rushing into the next routine, thereby allowing the audience member the space to react bigger. * His manner of connecting with an audience through eye contact and subject matter. * That there are no small tricks -- in every instance he imparts to his audience that what he is doing (no matter how minor a trick it may be to other magicians) is truly strange and important. (Who else could get so much impact from a Bite-Out Quarter?) * His revolutionary approach to televised magic, which focuses primarily on the audience reactions rather than on the magic being presented. This shares the vicarious enjoyment of being the performer with the television viewer -- no wonder it has spawned so many newcomers to magic. What We Can Learn From Chris Angel * Another way to envision the role of magician (in his case, as a theatrical and slightly scary rock star-like creature). * How attention to music, lighting, costumes and other theatrical elements can transform tricks into compelling theatrical entertainment. * That ancient effects can be revitalized through fresh thinking and setting (just look at his DeKolta Chair Vanish). * The way theming can bind a magical show together, give it relevance to a particular subculture, and help it reach out to a previously untapped audience. What would you add? Best, Neil
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Greg Arce Inner circle 6732 Posts |
Neil, fantastic comments... as usual. I wish that some would take note of your comments, but I'm sure it won't be too long before we get another thread of "who do you think is better.."
Oh, well. Greg
One of my favorite quotes: "A critic is a legless man who teaches running."
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willem New user 78 Posts |
I think they are both great magicians that makes a lot of money
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