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The lecture was good, but will someone who saw this please explain to me the story that he told about the man having five children and how it made sense relating to the outcome of the trick (writing down the numbers eventually revealed as the serial numbers on a dollar bill)? It had nothing to do with the story he told.
I am totally bewildered.

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Ammar is excellent and Josh was a pretty good interviewer. Great interview but lacked the volume of tricks and routines. Of course worth $1.00, but would have been a bit disappointed to pay $25.00.
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On 2014-02-10 06:50, Martello wrote:
The lecture was good, but will someone who saw this please explain to me the story that he told about the man having five children and how it made sense relating to the outcome of the trick (writing down the numbers eventually revealed as the serial numbers on a dollar bill)? It had nothing to do with the story he told.
I am totally bewildered.

Arthur


Martello, I'm with you on that, I was wondering that as well. I enjoyed the lecture overall, though.
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On 2014-02-10 06:50, Martello wrote:
The lecture was good, but will someone who saw this please explain to me the story that he told about the man having five children and how it made sense relating to the outcome of the trick (writing down the numbers eventually revealed as the serial numbers on a dollar bill)? It had nothing to do with the story he told.
I am totally bewildered.

Arthur


Martello, I'm with you on that, I was wondering that as well. I enjoyed the lecture overall, though.


It had nothing to do with it. It was just a joke.
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It wasn't "just a joke". It comprised most of his script for the effect.

The joke did have a 3-beat setup which he used to write the 3 parts of the serial number, so he was making some use of the joke's structure. But the joke's content was not tied back into the effect in any way, and his pausing to write the numbers during the joke was entirely unmotivated.

The switching move he used was decent, but the routine was a mess.
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3/10 based on this "lecture" or whatever you call it.

Pros:

Excellent video quality.
Multiple camera angles.
Josh did a good job.

Cons:

2 hours is far too short for this type of thing. Most lectures run 3 to 4 hours and have some substance.
Too much talking, not enough routines. A card pop out move, 30 seconds on the side steal, crazy man's handcuffs and a really strange routine with a bill that was not mentalism nor really magical at all. He knew the numbers on the bill by......how? I agree with the poster above...it was a mess and a half. If Ammar showed anything else it has completely slipped my mind.

I'm glad only paid a buck for this. Hopefully these will improve with time but they have a long way to go.
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Good to hear some honest feedback here. Glad I didn't bother with it, frankly.
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Good to hear some honest feedback here. Glad I didn't bother with it, frankly.


You didn't miss anything.
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It wasn't "just a joke". It comprised most of his script for the effect.

The joke did have a 3-beat setup which he used to write the 3 parts of the serial number, so he was making some use of the joke's structure. But the joke's content was not tied back into the effect in any way, and his pausing to write the numbers during the joke was entirely unmotivated.

The switching move he used was decent, but the routine was a mess.


It was, in fact, just a joke. A very old one at that. Not sure why you're debating that, then going on to say it had nothing to do with the effect. It didn't have anything to do with the effect other than for providing the moment of misdirection at the punchline. I think his purpose was to demonstrate the switch, not provide a fully structured routine around it.

In other words, for the people who want to know what the relationship between that joke and that trick was, there wasn't any, so you don't have to concern yourself with it -- you didn't miss anything.
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3/10 based on this "lecture" or whatever you call it.



Too much talking, not enough routines.


Well, the series is called "At the Table" which I guess is meant to imply a conversational "talk show" approach.
Personally, I really liked it but then I am probably one of the few that think the Penguin lectures often go on for too long. I am a Penguin subscriber though.

But why would you want other online lectures to be just like Penguin's?
I prefer to have variety and options. In some cases I may prefer Penguin's approach, other times Murphy's. It's good to have choices.

We are bombarded with new tricks and handlings from every direction. Not to mention all that has been published in the past.
Do you really feel there is not enough of that type of material already available?

I enjoy hearing these performer's stories and tales and wisdom and advice from all their years of experience.
Often times that is much more helpful to me than just an explanation of some new switch or control.

But I realize everyone is different, with different needs and preferences and I respect all the other opinions on this.
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I agree that we don't need something identical to what Penguin is doing, so I don't have a problem with the way they're doing things.

I also agree that $25 is probably a little steep for a more casual/conversational format.

But to be fair, if you watch some of the original penguin lectures, they were very rough, so maybe things will pick up.
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Indeed... The format of casual/conversational is really nice idea and it certainly would find its audience but not with this price range... In many cases even the penguin lectures best part is the interview in the end.

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3/10 based on this "lecture" or whatever you call it.



Too much talking, not enough routines.


Well, the series is called "At the Table" which I guess is meant to imply a conversational "talk show" approach.
Personally, I really liked it but then I am probably one of the few that think the Penguin lectures often go on for too long. I am a Penguin subscriber though.

But why would you want other online lectures to be just like Penguin's?
I prefer to have variety and options. In some cases I may prefer Penguin's approach, other times Murphy's. It's good to have choices.

We are bombarded with new tricks and handlings from every direction. Not to mention all that has been published in the past.
Do you really feel there is not enough of that type of material already available?

I enjoy hearing these performer's stories and tales and wisdom and advice from all their years of experience.
Often times that is much more helpful to me than just an explanation of some new switch or control.

But I realize everyone is different, with different needs and preferences and I respect all the other opinions on this.


Good points. It could be called At the Kitchen Counter. The name doesn't mean a thing and it's up to Murphy's to define what this is going to be all about. If it's going to be a yakfest and nothing more perhaps they could call it "A Conversation with...." I wouldn't pay $25 to listen to someone talk for two hours...my wife does that for free. Penguin nailed it and Murphy's missed the boat but the bottom line is all about parting you from your hard earned $$$$$.
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On 2014-02-10 15:30, Harv wrote:
3/10 based on this "lecture" or whatever you call it.



Too much talking, not enough routines.


Well, the series is called "At the Table" which I guess is meant to imply a conversational "talk show" approach.
Personally, I really liked it but then I am probably one of the few that think the Penguin lectures often go on for too long. I am a Penguin subscriber though.

But why would you want other online lectures to be just like Penguin's?
I prefer to have variety and options. In some cases I may prefer Penguin's approach, other times Murphy's. It's good to have choices.

We are bombarded with new tricks and handlings from every direction. Not to mention all that has been published in the past.
Do you really feel there is not enough of that type of material already available?

I enjoy hearing these performer's stories and tales and wisdom and advice from all their years of experience.
Often times that is much more helpful to me than just an explanation of some new switch or control.

But I realize everyone is different, with different needs and preferences and I respect all the other opinions on this.


Good points. It could be called At the Kitchen Counter. The name doesn't mean a thing and it's up to Murphy's to define what this is going to be all about. If it's going to be a yakfest and nothing more perhaps they could call it "A Conversation with...." I wouldn't pay $25 to listen to someone talk for two hours...my wife does that for free. Penguin nailed it and Murphy's missed the boat but the bottom line is all about parting you from your hard earned $$$$$.


While I see your point
I dunno I find conversation with an artist I enjoy very engaging
I enjoy it

not sure they "missed the boat"
mebbe they just missed "your boat"

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On 2014-02-10 15:30, Harv wrote:
3/10 based on this "lecture" or whatever you call it.



Too much talking, not enough routines.


Well, the series is called "At the Table" which I guess is meant to imply a conversational "talk show" approach.
Personally, I really liked it but then I am probably one of the few that think the Penguin lectures often go on for too long. I am a Penguin subscriber though.

But why would you want other online lectures to be just like Penguin's?
I prefer to have variety and options. In some cases I may prefer Penguin's approach, other times Murphy's. It's good to have choices.

We are bombarded with new tricks and handlings from every direction. Not to mention all that has been published in the past.
Do you really feel there is not enough of that type of material already available?

I enjoy hearing these performer's stories and tales and wisdom and advice from all their years of experience.
Often times that is much more helpful to me than just an explanation of some new switch or control.

But I realize everyone is different, with different needs and preferences and I respect all the other opinions on this.


Good points. It could be called At the Kitchen Counter. The name doesn't mean a thing and it's up to Murphy's to define what this is going to be all about. If it's going to be a yakfest and nothing more perhaps they could call it "A Conversation with...." I wouldn't pay $25 to listen to someone talk for two hours...my wife does that for free. Penguin nailed it and Murphy's missed the boat but the bottom line is all about parting you from your hard earned $$$$$.


While I see your point
I dunno I find conversation with an artist I enjoy very engaging
I enjoy it

not sure they "missed the boat"
mebbe they just missed "your boat"

Shawn


Could be...only time will tell.
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It's good to hear that 2014 is starting off with a bang and a lot of new exciting things are happening. Michael could easily charge 100 bucks for this, and even then it would still be a bargain. But one buck???

I don't think a deal like this is going to be coming down the road for a long, long time.


I don't Think Michael Ammar has anything to do with the price charged. I believe he still got his fee, but BBM or Vanishing inc, or whoever is responsible charged the one dollar introductory fee, to show people how great it is, and hopefully they will buy a package, or individually buy the other lectures.
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My download from penguin does not work! I read that they had problems during the live feed but why can't I watch it. I got it through penguin all my penguin lectures work but It won't load. It started for about 1min then nothing. Also it does not look like its in HD. Did anyone else have this problem?
Please help.
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not sure they "missed the boat"
mebbe they just missed "your boat"

Shawn


Ha, good point, and they will never hit everyone's "boat".
I assume Murphy's is still finding their way with this and may likely experiment with different formats. Ultimately, they need these to make a decent profit in order to continue so I would guess they will eventually find the key to hitting enough "boats", or their ship will sink.
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Well for me it was well worth $1 just to see his updated take on the coin switch, I've been playing with a few of them (mainly the Garrett Thomas version which is practically invisible,but I think this is the one I"m gonna stick with.
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