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I thought you looked familar Decomposed lol
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I thought you looked familar Decomposed lol


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Plus, those pics came out great
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Okay, I have an appointment with an agent coming up and I talked with one of their customers who does acting. They have a one year contract and $250 start up fee. This is for photos, promotion etc. If after one year you do not want to extend, you write a notarized letter. I think the fees for second year are about $165.. They are primarily a model agency but now are promoting entertainment. They have been in business for 23 years. Just wanted to see what my Café brothers think about this and if this is common. Thanks in advance


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Decomposed...brother...don't do it is my opinion.
I know I could be wrong, and cost you that Emmy lol, but this has first blush stink all over it.

Keep us posted.
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252Advice lol
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Decomposed...brother...don't do it is my opinion.
I know I could be wrong, and cost you that Emmy lol, but this has first blush stink all over it.

Keep us posted.


I agree 100%.

I've not used a physical photo to promote variety entertainment in 1 more than 10 years.
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Thanks ya'll. Smile


After talking to a performer with them, I just thought for $250 they really are not making any money unless they sell you. They do photos etc.....Now if it was like $800 a year then 400 after or something, I figure the stink would be much more potent.
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Why does the dollar amount matter? If it is wrong it is wrong.
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As probably the only member here that owns both entertainment agencies and a modeling agency, my advice is to approach at your own risk with caution. I will say that entertainment agencies and modeling agencies are two completely different animals, both approaching their industries and more importantly their talent form completely different perspectives.

I have had several of our agents want to work both agencies, I we absolutely forbid it. Won't even consider it due to the way they operate and the many different and often opposing mentalities.

Modeling agencies do have the element of requiring decent quality professional photos. It is what they submit to their clients and anything less reflects directly on them. For many years the general rule of thumb was you should never have to pay for listing, representation or photos. If you need photos get them done on your own. From an agency's perspective they would rather have you shoot with their recommended photographers who they know and have worked with many times before. They know their work, and the photogs know exactly what the agency wants and needs. Of course the photographer has to be paid for their services so agencies offer it as a viable option (which many times is much better than you paying for your own pro photographer getting the shots and type of photos you THINK the agency wants only to find out upon submission they can't be used and are not at all what the agency needs.)

Now in these days of selfies, modeling agencies are going crazy with the receiving of newbies wanting to break into the business and even though their submission process says "Submit professional photos only" they still get 95% selfies. So as a backlash to this and in an attempt to maintain the professional shots they require more seem to be going to the pay for shots or pay for representation that includes photos.

Either way a modeling agency likely will not do much for a live entertainer. They may have access to extra info for actors, which is also usually available for free through proper industry resources if you know what they are. Most serious actors or extras easily know these.

My question would be, why do you think they would be able, qualified or interested in getting you bookings as a live entertainer or mentalist? It is expensive to operate an agency and cultivate clients who book, need or offer entertainment. I can't see a typical modeling agency making the commitment required to "also offer entertainment." I'd be very interested in seeing how your meeting goes. What guarantees do you get by paying the fee? What and how much live entertainment are they currently booking? What entertainment markets are they booking and have the best success with? Are they the markets you serve? Who are some of their clients they provide live entertainment for? Who are some of the other artists (entertainers) they represent.

I would be happy to tell you more about the specific agency if you want to email me who they are. We could see if they are a licensed, registered agency, and if they are listed as part of the national association, and there are any legitimate complaints against them.

I think, like the OP and his initial inquiry and situation that started this thread (of which I offered the advice which ended up being 100% accurate and hitting the "agent" on the head as far as who and what he really was) this could very likley turn out the same way.

Mu question is how did this develop? Did you find them, they find you? Did you respond to an ad? Did you encounter a recruiter (common in modeling agencies, not entertainment)?
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Thanks for help MP, I PMed you.
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