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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts 
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According to an Indian former officemate of mine, nobody would ever eat tiger meat because tigers are carnivores; hence, their meat would have an unappealing taste.
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Bob1Dog Inner circle Wife: It's me or this houseful of 1159 Posts
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The Chinese and other cultures have been consuming dogs for a long time. I know, it;s repugnant, to me anyway. But still, it occurs. I've read that dogs are naturally biased towared being carnivores, because of their evolution from wolves. But they can also be considered ominvores in modern times. So I'm not sure how that would change the taste of dogs. In Hong Kong, I've heard that dogs taste like goat.
I believe any society desiring protein from meat will consume anything that might be hunted.
What if the Hokey Pokey really IS what it's all about?
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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts
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Don't forget the doves and rabbits used for entertainment.
Cruelty to animals?
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Bob1Dog Inner circle Wife: It's me or this houseful of 1159 Posts
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It's legal to hunt doves and rabbits where I live, so for me the hunt is legal and not cruel to animals. And if you've never tasted dove breasts wrapped in bacon,grilled on the barbie, you're missing out on a treat that's almost as good as satay with cucumbers and peanut sauce. Rabbits? Well they don't really taste like chicken, but they're still tasty.
What if the Hokey Pokey really IS what it's all about?
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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On 2014-01-21 01:46, Bob1Dog wrote: Well, legal anyway.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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Bob1Dog Inner circle Wife: It's me or this houseful of 1159 Posts
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Not fair lobo, you're a vegetarian. Hunting is legal and it isn't cruel. It's been around this country for a long time and it's not going away anytime soon. Hunting is no different than buying hamburger at the supermarket. It's just that some of us find the sport and the game more favorable than buying it. And our game is as natural as it gets.
What if the Hokey Pokey really IS what it's all about?
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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On 2014-01-21 02:05, Bob1Dog wrote: Whether or not it's legal has no bearing on whether or not it's cruel. Nor does how long it's been around.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts
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We have a zoo here that keeps rescued big cats that couldn't survive on their own due to injuries or other factors. I remember them telling us about one lion that the had to come and get out of the idiot owner's Corvette or Lamborghini or whatever it was. If this zoo didn't exist they would have put the animal down, which happens much more often with ill-planned exotic pets than we tend to hear about. It would obviously be best if people didn't go buying lions and tigers (and bears?) without knowing what they're getting into, but as long as they are I can't fault the zoo and am glad they are there to help.
Capturing healthy animals in the wild just to put them on display is something I'm also opposed to.
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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts
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On 2014-01-21 01:46, Bob1Dog wrote: I have tasted both. They're tasty. But I meant for Magic Shows, all that stuffing (not the eating kind) is not cruel?
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magicalaurie Inner circle Ontario, Canada 2962 Posts
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On 2014-01-20 21:57, Starrpower wrote: Look again at the lion who stayed out the melee, like  "My agent told me this was a professional act. Can we get with the program here?  " |
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts
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On 2014-01-21 02:19, LobowolfXXX wrote: I'm an omnivore, and I fully agree with Lobo.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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magicalaurie Inner circle Ontario, Canada 2962 Posts
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A few of the cats toward the end of the clip seemed to me to be taking their cues from the "handlers". Oh, another swat, o.k., I'm game. The cats were looking to each other as if trying to figure out what was expected of them. Do we go back to the routine or improvise? The handler seemed to be looking for a fight and they gave him a little one, in my opinion. Give 'em a show, boys, you know, something to talk about.
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts
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Weird that the handlers made no attempt to get the lions offstage, back in their cages, but continued to keep all in a dangerous situation.
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magicalaurie Inner circle Ontario, Canada 2962 Posts
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That's what I thought, too, landmark. The cat backed off fairly early on and they continued poking at him. I'd think when he backed off and sat down (3:22) he should have been diverted to a secure location. I don't think it was the time for the handler to take the stick from his assistant and resume poking. That's where I say that handler was looking for a fight- had something to prove. If he's the leader, why's he engaging in fisticuffs with his cat after the cat has backed away and sat down? It was his body language in the first place, I think, that provoked the cat. I think the lineup could have been arranged in a way the cat could have more easily relaxed after his choreography. You see him return to his "seat", the third cat picks up the cue and proceeds, but the handler is moving quickly in a line that (3:06), I think, the first cat perceives as challenging. I think the choreography should have been changed, perhaps, after the second cat, continue on that side of the ring and have the third cat go from there. I think, however, the main problem here is the handler's inattention to or lack of responsibility for his own movements. That's my take on it, for what it's worth.
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Bob1Dog Inner circle Wife: It's me or this houseful of 1159 Posts
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On 2014-01-21 02:19, LobowolfXXX wrote: It's a cruel world lobo. Animals kill each other cruelly to survive. Man kills animals (as humanely as possible) to survive. Man has eaten meat for thousands of years and it ain't gonna change anytime soon. Call it cruel if you want. Some might call it survival. You and I aren't going to settle this here. You're entitled to your opinion and food choices, as am I.
What if the Hokey Pokey really IS what it's all about?
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts
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For the record, I have no objection to legal, humane hunts. In your earlier post, Bob, you equated legal with humane, and I suspect you didn't really mean it.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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Bob1Dog Inner circle Wife: It's me or this houseful of 1159 Posts
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Magnus, I didn't give it much thought when I wrote it but that said, hunters are taught to make clean shots for instant kills. Does it always work out that way? Of course not. Just as slaughterhouses do their work as humanely as possible. I respect and love animals as much as the rest of us, but livestock has been raised as food for man for thousands of years. I believe it's always been the practice to kill as quickly and humanely as possible, even in ancient times. No sane human being enjoys suffering in any living creature. So, also for the record, I am against the inhumane killing of animals for food. For that matter, I'm against the killing of animals for anything else but food. I detest hunters who hunt for the trophy. I detest poachers who hunt illegally and those who hunt for the blackmarket things they sell from those hunts, like ivory. I want to be very clear on that.
Now, you just beat me to an edit I was going to add as a P.S. to my previous post to lobo, so I'll include it here. I believe lobo is a fan of J.D. Salinger and I wanted to alert him that tonight here on the east coast, PBS is airing a special two-and-a-half hour special titled Salinjger: American Masters.
What if the Hokey Pokey really IS what it's all about?
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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts
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If you eat meat, you condone killing animals at some level I think...
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Chessmann Inner circle 4247 Posts
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On 2014-01-21 10:42, magicalaurie wrote: the Lion Whisperer.
My ex-cat was named "Muffin". "Vomit" would be a better name for her. AKA "The Evil Ball of Fur".
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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts
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I guess I am strange. (Well, you know that I am strange,) But it seems obvious to me that all of us have some kind of respect for animals, even if we eat them.
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