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Todd Robbins V.I.P. New York 2922 Posts |
Prove it clearly, irrevocably and all will be done. Until then, all will be murky and allow frauds to prosper.
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Godzilla Inner circle Tied & Untied Witches on 5316 Posts |
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On 2014-02-01 01:23, Todd Robbins wrote: I agree with,Todd ! Randi is right,until he has been 'PROVEN' wrong !
"If you watch Godzilla backwards, it's about a big ass lizard who helps rebuild a half burnt-down city, then moonwalks back into the ocean"
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Michael Zarek Special user Sweden 923 Posts |
Why is everyone so obsessed with this RIGHT NOW, I didn't even hear anything about Randi for some time.
I still don't belive that prize can actually be won, but why does that matter? If someone wants to try it, he will, if he doesn't than he won't.
Reader discretion is advised.
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Voodini Inner circle 1783 Posts |
I was going to post something, but then I though 'what's the point'? No-one ever changed their mind due a post on a forum, and all I'd do is open myself to being shouted at by one camp or the other.
It's seems like every 6 months or so there has to be this argument on Penny. Perhaps we're caught in a time-loop? Perhaps I caused it? I claim my $1 million!
Voodini - cold reading, past life regressions, remote viewing, Q&A, palm reading, bizarre & seance...
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C.J. Inner circle There's a lotta rambling in my 2366 Posts |
The other thread was hilarious. This one makes the whole thing tiresome. I'm out.
Connor Jacobs - The Thought Sculptor
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Tom Cutts Staff Northern CA 5925 Posts |
Quote: Since this has never been achieved*, what proof does JR submit to the validity of this theory?
On 2014-02-01 01:23, Todd Robbins wrote: *I am, of course, reading the phrase "all will be done" with emphasis on "all" and "done" to be encompassing and final in their achievement. One could easily just be using it as a flippant, cute phrase which means nothing; allowing them to continue the thing which fuels their ego. |
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Tom Jorgenson Inner circle LOOSE ANGLES, CALIFORNIA 4451 Posts |
I'd say that Science does not in any way negate the validity of all personal experience. It only negates the validity of some. Science not proving the Psychic function only means that science cannot yet prove the psychic experience, it does not mean the psychic function does not exist.
100 years ago, 1914, you couldn't prove the existance of a jet plane, TV or a million other items that freely exist now. Yet all those things were buried within the principles of science. So with the Psychic functions of man. When science catches up, psychic functioning can be taught as part of school. Until then, you'll just need a hot class in Silva Mind Control to jumpstart your Psychic functioning. Randi is moot.
We dance an invisible dance to music they cannot hear.
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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts |
Randi is right.
"Dreams aren't a matter of Chance but a matter of Choice." -DC-
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MatthewSims Special user 778 Posts |
I thought we couldn't even talk about Randi. Every post I ever made about him or the challenge, a moderator deleted it. They also wouldn't tell me why, just said it wasn't allowed.
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backinblack Special user 910 Posts |
*no psychic ever passed a scientiffic test..
*no single theory was braught up how psychic abilitys shall work that was accepted by scientists.. *not a single serious scientist researches in paranormal direction.. what do these facts tell us about paranormal phenomens from the perspective of science? |
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
Pam ragland proved psychic ability exists....
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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backinblack Special user 910 Posts |
Well, if she proved it than it is meanwhile part of serious science.. did not know that.. what scientific field is it teached in? also business administration? guess the books about communication politics e.g. must be written new after this prove..
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brody Inner circle Omaha 1313 Posts |
Ragland does??? Not in my book. Are you going back to the Terry Smith case? Really?
Or are you talking about this... ( http://doubtfulnews.com/2013/08/psychic-......on-case/ ) Another terrible situation unfolded in Southern California this week and self-described “intuitive” Pam Ragland is already positioning herself and her daughter for more media attention. Ragland’s visions and claims have unsurprisingly turned out to be flat out wrong. Steven Gregory at KFI AM640 radio called Ragland to talk about the case and was aired on Bill Handel’s morning program on Thursday, August 8th. Ragland claims to have a vision of “a long stretch of road”, that “looked like a desert”, “it was kinda flat”, and “looks desolate”. Ragland called the police line to let them know that she believes DiMaggio is “definitely unstable and possibly suicidal”. DiMaggio is also described as “holed up somewhere”. “Next to Mexico.. all made sense.” Wrong. They were found in the Idaho wilderness. The GOOD news is that a pair of couples riding horses came across Anderson and her kidnapper DiMaggio and alert authorities after something looked amiss. Hannah was rescued, her assailant killed. So, real action helped resolve this episode, not psychic suggestions. Of course, go to her site - look around and see if she seems "real" http://askpamragland.com/ |
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
She had a vision ... Called a radio station ... They hooked her up with a fire fighter rescue guy .. She directed him directly to the missing person within minutes ...THAT Pam Ragland....
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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brody Inner circle Omaha 1313 Posts |
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And how does that PROVE anything? How many misses versus 1 hit? No, don't think so. Heck even her own websites don't claim that she's a psychic...... |
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
Brody ...If she's fake then duplicate it for me ... Find a missing person tomorrow ... One that lives in another town and no one knows where they went... OK?
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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backinblack Special user 910 Posts |
Usually the psychics do not this good as described.. guess there is a little truth and lots of storytelling also in this case..
anyhow: brody is right: if she has these abilitys: why not going to scientists so that they can study how her abilitys work (neurological e.g.)? why not helping police more often to find poor poor little sweet missed kids e.g.? |
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
Out of interest, how many scientists are consulted with when they design these JREF tests? do they have access to scientists that can help pull out any bias or help improve each test?
I think all that Randi/JREF has proved so far, is that (however many applied) none have passed the test...that doesn't mean that psyhic ability doesn't exist does it... that's all...
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Close.Up.Dave Inner circle Behind you! 2956 Posts |
Even if supernatural abilities exist, they are still subject to real scientific study and have a chemical or physical mechanism of the universe. That is why it is very unlikely that a human being would possess abilities beyond the scope of the function of his organs and instincts; they were not built to do the things that are being claimed. If they were, it would be actually documented.
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
Maybe its like a form of super developed savant like thing? Dunno...am open to any theory, but its pointless to dismiss anything just cos we might not like the idea of something being true in some way...
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