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In a recent Stevens Magic catalog, they advertise magnetic cobalt dice. These are transparent, casino-style dice. A little pricey at $195 for a pair, but such things are probably hard to make. Anyone know of any other sources? I'd really like just one, as I'd like to see if it would work with a chopped dice cup.
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Try David Malek or Gamblingcollectibles.com, they might be able to help out.

I doubt you're going to get them for $20 though.
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Maybe Jeff could be of some help too? (ExpertMagician here)
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I don't believe that you are going to find that kind of a cube, at a price you are willing to pay, to use in a chop cup routine. Even solid color 3/4" razors with flush pips, which look much better than drugstore dice and are obviously easier to load than the clear cubes, will cost you. If you can find them.
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I don't believe there's enough "gaff" on board such that an actual mag die intended for use on a craps table or dice drop would to stick to a chop cup.

Even for table use, unless they're ridiculously gaffed such that they're a novelty - they're only a percentage gaff.....not even designed to do what they do every single time they're thrown.

If they were ridiculously gaffed such as noted above, then they'd be a regular chop cup die available from your local magic store!
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On 2014-02-05 20:19, silverking wrote:
I don't believe there's enough "gaff" on board such that an actual mag die intended for use on a craps table or dice drop would to stick to a chop cup.



You might be surprised. Little magnets are pretty strong nowadays. But then again you may be right. Either way Merenkov it could be a tough find, sorry to say. What are you trying to do with it anyway? What's the idea of the routine you are working on?
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Thanks everyone for your input. I'll probably try to talk Stevens Magic into bringing a few of these along next time our paths cross at a convention. As someone mentioned, if one has a strong enough magnet in a chopped dice cup, it might just be enough to attract one of these magnetic casino dice. Marlin, in answer to your question, the idea is to perform a little dice stacking with my casino dice, and be able to seamlessly transition to a chop cup type routine with the gimmicked die. I do this already using some gimmicked drugstore-style dice, but those are harder to stack. And I've always been enamored by the idea of a chopped casino die because of the extra layer of deception (it's transparent!).
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Merenkov, I've send you a PM...
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I have dozens of magnetic casino dice and virtually all of them will stick to a strong enough magnet (even a small one if it's a neodymium/strong magnet).

The problem will be finding a chop cup with a magnet that strong. You'll probably have to build it yourself or have it made for you.

Jason
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Just to clarify, I said in my post above that a magnetic casino die likely wouldn't stick to a chop cup.
Because I offered no language that would imply otherwise, my reference was to a normal chop cup.

I didn't say a magnetic casino die wouldn't stick to a magnet.

If you put a big enough magnet in anything, then a mag casino die will stick to it.

Rant over.
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Jason, would you mind revealing the source for your magnetic casino dice?
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On 2014-02-07 13:34, Merenkov wrote:
Jason, would you mind revealing the source for your magnetic casino dice?

Like the scene in Breaking Bad where Walt says to Skyler "I am the guy who knocks on the door".....Jason is the guy who knocks on the door!

Sorry, couldn't resist the (bad) parable, all to say that the best gaffed dice in my collection were sourced - from Jason!
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Silver,

Hope it didn't read like I was contradicting you. When I wrote my response it was in support of what you were saying. Maybe I didn't make that clear.

Jason

PS: Merenkov - I responded to your PM regarding same.
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All good Jason, I should have stated simply that I thought a regular mag die probably wouldn't stick to a regular chop cup and just left it at that.
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Okay, so three years after my original post, I bought a pair of magnetic translucent dice (that were made by legendary gaffed-dice maker Junior Hinson). They're beautiful, but as silverking warned, there's not enough magnetic attraction to work in my chopped dice cups (and I tried several). As Jason mentioned, I'd probably have to have a special cup made to pull this off. So anyway, I now have the pair up for sale in the "Tricks & effects for sale" forum...
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But Merenkov. If this is something that you still would like to be able to do at somepoint in time. Why not keep ahold of the dice and wait untill you can have the needed gaffed dice cup custom made for you?
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On May 10, 2017, RS1963 wrote: If this is something that you still would like to be able to do at somepoint in time. Why not keep ahold of the dice and wait untill you can have the needed gaffed dice cup custom made for you?

After years of searching, I finally tracked down a chopped dice cup made by Pressley Guitar (I believe Pressley actually had these made by Bill Gusias). I'm partial to it, and I've never been able to find anyone that could make one that's even close to its quality. So rather than sacrifice the cup for one with a stronger magnet, I think I'll just give up on the magnetic casino dice idea...
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If you want juice craps get in touch with me ,no problem any type you want is available, including birds eye,, thanks , fast jack
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When using magnetic dice , especially if they were made by junior ,it isn,t the dice that are the problem but the type of magnet you are using and how you use the magnet . Remember, a magnet only has so much flux area and you must adjust to that, my new web-page will be up and running in about a week and I will be glad to enlighten you. https://www.fastjack711.com/
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Fastjack, how hard would it be to have a set of translucent dice made, not for a juiced table, but for a chopped dice cup? As I mentioned before, I have a chopped dice cup made by Bill Gusias...
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