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Margarette
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I'm watching the 10:00 p.m. news here. This is the order of stories:

Brittney Spears gets married
Fireman arrested for setting fire to a house
Police standoff...child ends up getting shot
Death threats to Sen. Clinton
Wesley Clark talking about the war in Iraq
oh, and the 28 degree temperature difference between yesterday and today isn't mentioned until the weather.

Have we lost sight of what's important when a 'celebrity' gets married, even though it ends up beign a joke gone too far, gets more airtime than a child getting shot?

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People like the gossip, not the relevent stuff. What can I say, it is a sick world.

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Wait, wait... Brittany Spears got married!!!
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Sad to say but children get shot every day in this country. So another one, unless it's a truly grizzily affair will not get mentioned except in passing on the news.
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Unfortunately, Margarette, you've answered your own question. We have become a people obsessed with fame & fortune... whether it's ours or someone elses.

I know some try to blame the media, but the media only puts out what people want... they are a money-making organization and they will only put out what makes money. If everyone decided not to watch Entertainment Tonight or tune in every time Michael Jackson announces another bowel movement, the networks and the entertainment world would put on something else.

There are crazy photographers stalking the stars because MOST of America wants to see the next picture of Tom Cruise eating a snow cone... if no one bought those silly rags that feature these pictures then they would be out of business.

Think of our little world: David Blaine did not become famous because he was doing card tricks at a party... we all tuned in to any stunt he did.

How do we change all this? Who knows? I guess you just try to be a little more discriminating than others when it comes to your own list of priorities.

Consider yourself lucky that you have least noticed these things... most don't.
Hopefully you still will have a Happy New Year.
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Margarette, the news operations' priorities aren't what most people think they should be. The purpose of the news is not to inform you, it is to sell advertising time or space, in order to generate money. Reporting the events of the day is merely the particular way they do this.

To sell the advertising time/space, they need to get ratings. To get the ratings, they need to generate interest in their shows. By this standard, an attractive celebrity's surprise marriage is more likely to get the ratings than a kid getting shot.

In the days where the purpose of the news was to inform, news report shows were considered "loss leaders". They didn't make money, and were considered to be a service that you had to provide, whether or not they made money.

Today, in a world where you're competing against other entire channels who do nothing but news, you make money, or you're out of the game.
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Sad but very true, Scott.
There are a few good sources for great journalism still out there: Frontline, NPR
but who know how long these will last!
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Wait... what is this "news" thing you are all talking about? Is that what they call that stuff that's on while I'm waiting for Letterman?
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My husband and I spoke about this--
Also--with the "skewed" or freaky taste that America has developed with TV and reality shows--we had sex (temptation island, be a porn star etc..), money (the new one with Trump) and soon I feel some idiot will put real death on TV.

Margarette--YES---where are we all going to?? Why couldn't it be simpler. The whole thing is gross!

Well, I'm gonna go watch survivor.

PS) Anybody have kids???

See those BRATZ dolls? I would like to boycott them. Look at what they stand for? The name? Their looks (prosty-like clothing and makeup and these 4 and 5 year olds play with them???) and best of all, they sell malls to go with the dolls so they can program our kids that the best place to go to IS a MALL. Smile

Priority is needed and lacked with those ugly things.

Why can't they sell museums or schools to go to??

Don't get me going...whoops--you just did!!! Smile

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We have a lander on Mars... no comment?

The Chinese may have a space program... no comment?

All this 'new money' printed and minted does nothing for us as magicians except add risk to borrowing a quarter.

Try to keep in mind that the mass media exists to sell product...some of which might be construed as important.
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On 2004-01-06 16:16, JonTown wrote:
We have a lander on Mars... no comment?


Now, if the lander on Mars proved life on Mars and that they really were indeed "little green men", and they were behind all these alien abductions, I guess THAT would be news! Smile

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Not unless one of the little green men married Brittany Spears then did a multimillion dollar picture with O.J., Martha Stewart & Michael Jackson. Smile
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And once again, the National Enquirer beats my Weekly Reader in the battle of the books periodicals division. There are no highlights. Goofus beat up gallant and ate his lunch too. Got Ritilin?
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Well, I've got an idea. I know it's not going to be the most popular idea ever proposed but it works for me...Get rid of your TV. Honestly. I don't have a TV now and my life is so much better for it. I can watch DVDs on my PC and I can listen to CDs. Can anyone suggest one good reason why I should get a TV? All the above posts count as reasons why not and that's before we even start discussing advertising. Oh, how I miss advertising...about as much as I miss changing nappies.
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The TV is a great source of inspiration and almost an oracle if you want to use it that way. It does however, like Internet useage, consume time. What mass media gives in stimulation it takes back in time and demands for critical attention.

Have you read the classics? Learned to paint, to play an instrument, to move ideas between contexts?

So much to do and only so many hours in the day.

Anyone got a text file ramdomizer?
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Money and politics rule the news outlets.

While we are battling terrorism in the middle east, cruel and dark things are happening in North Korea. Things that would make you weep...so we better not talk about it, because there is no money in that fight.
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Wow, JonTown, great minds think alike!

I'm actually reading Chaucer, and learning to play the keyboards. I used to be a professional artist, but I have even managed to get the old pencil and paper going again. Plus I'm doing magic too, of course.

What kind of randomizer did you want?:
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Jones; Although I know that TV is not the best source of knowledge out there, it still is something that is very common to the largest sector of your audiences.

You ask what would be the need in a TV? To keep you inform as to what the audience is tuned in to. How can you make a joke that is understood to everyone if you do not know what everyone is watching? And worse, what if someone in your audience makes a joke and you are the only one not laughing because you did not understand the reference.

Now, I'm not saying you should sit in front of the screen 24/7, but maybe take a glance every once and awhile and see what the people are watching. Here's an example: I have a friend, who much like you, never watches TV... and I mean NEVER. Well, he sat in one of my sessions and at the time there was a mouthy spectator. Not too bad, but he wanted to always interrupt. I made a quick comment about him and ended by saying, "The tribe has spoken... you're banished from the island." The whole group laughed, including the rowdy spectator, but my friend had no idea what was funny about it.

Now, do I watch Survivor religiously? No. But I've seen it enough times to pick up the lingo. I tend to watch enough of the shows that are popular so I can stay up with my audience's references.

And you mentioned commercials. Those are also very popular even if we don't like it. "Where's the beef?" "Wasssupp!!" "Can you hear me now?"... all became part of our language over here. As an entertainer, I feel I need to know these things because my audiences are aware of them. Does that mean I don't read the classics or study other sources of info? No. I've made references to vortexes, Shakespeare, Depak Chopra, etc, when the time was right and the audience was also right.

I only say these things because you asked to give a reason to have a TV... that's my reason.
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I hate the news. The stories like the one about Britney Spears just show how air-headed a lot of celebrities are, and the stories about kids getting shot will send you into the pits of despair in short order. Besides, after a while, it's not really "news". Another robbery, another murder, another goofy Hollywood marriage, a marriage gone bad, a husband shoots his wife, a wife shoots her husband, yadda yadda yadda . . .

Henry David Thoreau, in the days before television, used to have a lot of disdain for people who had to read the newspaper every day. The news back then was as monotonous to him as the news of today is to me. He said, "Read not the Times. Read the Eternities." An abstract concept, yes. But one worth thinking over.

Having said that, I actually caught a news story the other day that was kind of cool. Some guy, as a practical joke, wrapped everything in a friend's office in tin foil --- except the book, "Cruel Tricks For Dear Friends". Now that's as worthwhile as anything else they report . ..
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Oh... goodie!

My swivel text to hyperlink an underworld of routines!

Sugar, spice, Lovecraft ... but my accident (not) add some royal road. In the 'BAMPH!' was born the Heisenberg presentation?

Agree? Somewhat agree? Rinse and repeat?

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the idea here would be to take a few paragraphs from different sources, mix well, and reformat the output into a third format. For example, consider some choice Lovecraft text, mixed into a sleight description.

There is something about the place where we build images from words... and its neighbor where we express our inner feelings into words that avoids direct observation. A textual oracle perhaps?
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