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Re: news. I once heard a man comment about hearing nothing but all the bad things that had/were/are happening all over the world. He then said ,"if the news reported all the good things that happen, it would never go off." True? I'm not sure, but I like thinking about it sometimes. I'm sure this says something about me but I'm not sure what. You tell me... Smile
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That's it!

Nation of Islam performs shotgun marriage of Michael Jackson and Brittney Spears. Children expected momentarily! Who will attend the honeymoon?

Gravity remains constant today for the umpteenth day while local temperature variations continue to be distributed normally. Light and Dark periods are expected for the rest of the season, so plan your work accordingly.

About the only pertinent 'good news' worthy of media attention might be the ever-increasing want of more good works.
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Greg, I've given your post a lot of thought and I take your point. BUT I have the internet and the radio and all of the things you mention I can, and do, pick up well enough from chat shows, forums and news sites.

I've never seen Survivor or any of the other 'reality' TV shows, Big Brother, Fame Academy, Pop Idol et al. But I some how manage to know who's won, who broke down in tears and what the catchphrases are.

Thanks for giving it the thought that you obviously did, I did ask and you gave a reasonable reply. But it won't be enough to persuade me to invest in a TV (and licence!).
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Like I really wouldn't turn off miserable news of someone being shot when the other channel has a feature about Celebrity Magician Margarette on it.

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On 2004-01-04 23:24, Margarette wrote:
Have we lost sight of what's important when a 'celebrity' gets married, even though it ends up beign a joke gone too far, gets more airtime than a child getting shot?
Margarette


You still get your news from television. Bah! I can tell you the hyped up and often baseless coverage here in Dallas will discourage you from doing so ever again. Try BBC radio, MSN.com, Reuters as they'll bring a little closer to the truth whatever that means.
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On 2004-01-25 12:30, jonesc2ii wrote:
Greg, I've given your post a lot of thought and I take your point. BUT I have the internet and the radio and all of the things you mention I can, and do, pick up well enough from chat shows, forums and news sites.

I've never seen Survivor or any of the other 'reality' TV shows, Big Brother, Fame Academy, Pop Idol et al. But I some how manage to know who's won, who broke down in tears and what the catchphrases are.

Thanks for giving it the thought that you obviously did, I did ask and you gave a reasonable reply. But it won't be enough to persuade me to invest in a TV (and licence!).


I forgot you have to pay for a license over there. I guess it feels that way here because most of us pay for cable. Ah, well.
And, although I said all those things about TV, I do know that at times I tend to be a little addicted to it so maybe I should lay off the channel surfing.
It's hard though because I was a TV kid... loved it since birth... I think I was born with an antenna.
Having said all that, I do wish that more people would read, too. I find that a lot of my friends are missing out by not reading a great book or two... and I don't count the TV guide. Smile

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As I was always told in English; "Bad news is Good news"

Sad but it's true....


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No. It isn't.
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Depending on the day your local news format goes as such: Breaking national, recurring national, breaking local, follow up local, weather, fluff, sports special interest. Of course there are variations, but that is usually the format. I don't think I helped at all sorry.
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Try this as an experiment. don't read the newspaper or watch the news and everytime you get in your car put a cd or tape in so that you can not hear any news. Do it for a month and you will find something amazing. You still know what happened in the news.

Why?...Because everyone speaks about it all the time you just can not get away from it. I haven't bought a newspaper in over 6 months and I use to read 3 a day. It is a waste of money and time. Read a good book instead about a subject you are interested in everyday and see what that does for you.
You don't need the news. Does that sound stupid?
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Well...I spent 20 years in the media; I have three Emmys sitting on my shelf, which may give me some credibility in speaking about this stuff. (They're even mine.)

Please remember: the main purpose of a TV news department is not to inform, or educate, or illuminate or any of that high-falutin' stuff. It's to put on a show that will draw a large audience, so that the station's sales force can sell time to advertisers. It's not by accident that stations make an inordinate amount of profit off their news departments, not their relationships with the networks.

So, if you accept what I've just written, then everything else makes sense. We, as TV viewers, no longer will tolerate simply being informed...we want to be entertained. Hence, the production values that have taken over TV news. What passes for news: the helicopter shot of a house on fire...the video of Britney kissing Madonna...the interview with the teary-eyed widow answering the reporter's question of "how do you feel?" (Aargh...don't get me started on that one.)

And before you go bemoaning it...just remember, TV stations do it because it works. They do it because people tune in to see it. So, if you're going to dismiss it, you'd better be prepared to not watch TV yourself...and to understand that (almost anywhere you live) you will be in the distinct minority.

Same thing with those who govern us, I'm afraid. A phrase I've used since my days as a reporter has been "We get the government we deserve." Think about it...
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Yes, it works. So some of us TiVo the few things we want, listen to music or other material on CD and perhaps allow the LOCAL CABLE news to go on for a few Minutes when they do the weather.

Even at work I can't confuse my friends for 'Ross' and 'Phoebe'. No more proletarian writing machine output for me thanks. Got books to read and magic to do.
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See who buys ads on the news, and complain to them. They tell their sales rep that they have complaints, and that rep will be screaming back at the station.
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<<We get the government we deserve.>>

I don't agree with this.

<< I know some try to blame the media, but the media only puts out what people want>>

Nor that.

What is missing in this discussion is the fact of power. Some have more of it than others. Those people with more power can often impose their will on others with less power. Politics and the media are just two of the arenas they act in to perpetuate their power.

With study, organization,courage, and will, eventually the lesser individual power of the many can balance the concentrated power of the few.

But I'm not sure that blaming ourselves for other's greed is a good beginning.

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Hey Jones and Greg,

I don't watch TV. Ever. I solved the audience common-frame-of-reference problem by being a living anachronism. My character is from the late nineteenth century. I have done much reading of material from that period, and my script is full of overblown words that many people don't understand. I use a really big persona, and it keeps people in line. I would never use a contemporary joke, and I only have to keep in touch with what was going on before they were born.

It's not a solution for everybody, but it works.

Kill your TV!

Yours,

Paul
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Paul, unfortunately some people are living in the 19th century and they are not even playing a character.
If it works for you go for it.
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On 2004-01-28 08:41, Steve Friedberg wrote:
Please remember: the main purpose of a TV news department is not to inform, or educate, or illuminate or any of that high-falutin' stuff. It's to put on a show that will draw a large audience, so that the station's sales force can sell time to advertisers.


That may explain why the BBC has the best news in the world? No adverts.
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On 2004-01-05 23:27, Scott Cram wrote:
Margarette, the news operations' priorities aren't what most people think they should be. The purpose of the news is not to inform you, it is to sell advertising time or space, in order to generate money. Reporting the events of the day is merely the particular way they do this.

Very sad but very true, and on top of all that is the unavoidable reality that they want you to see the news through their eyes!

They have the power to present it any way they want. YIKES! The scary part of all this for me is that some people will watch the news or pick up a paper and take it as the gospel truth.
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Oh! One other thing. Does anyone watch American Chopper? I love that show...
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You brought something beautiful to this world, you touched my heart, my soul and my life. You will be greatly missed.

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