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Do you have to use the rubber band to strap in the paper? Seems very weird to rip out the page, place it on top of the book, than secure it in place with the rubber band. What is the correct handling to this routine? Anyone?
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Mysticalsales, I have already answered that question, you don't have to, but he recommends it and it helps in concealing the method
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Especially if you don't tear the paper out. Then it gets risky not having the band around
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On Apr 12, 2014, mysticalsales wrote:
Do you have to use the rubber band to strap in the paper? Seems very weird to rip out the page, place it on top of the book, than secure it in place with the rubber band. What is the correct handling to this routine? Anyone?

Unfortunately that's what happens when inexperienced performers create 'demo' videos. The effect is ruined and the creator's vision is undermined.

The correct handling is to merely flip the pad open and hand it to the spectator to write or draw on. All that messing about with the rubber band is not necessary if you know what you're doing and have experience in handling people.
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As I stated previously, it was hard to perform on camera. My dvd did not work properly but I still made sure to watch it 4 times. I performed it exactly 106 times since I got it at 4 weddings, 3 private shows and a few dozen times in a few pubs and for friends. I got caught twice, but it's only because I used it so much that the "material" got out of shape. I took the video off out of respect to Mark. I just thought people would be more willing to buy it if they saw it performed. I got 7 messages today saying that thanks to me they actually bought it. 2 people had questions that I was happy to answer.

So before calling people inexperienced, think again, as some people actually take a lot of time before posting videos. If you have seen any activity from me on the Café it's mostly been me sharing my ideas on products such as Bently, The Clarity Box, the F1 nitro wallet and the Complete Peek Wallet. I take time to road test ideas because people actually take time to release things (not everyone unfortunately) and I wouldn't like anyone to perform my effects right out of the box, especially the one that might be coming out in a few months with Full 52.
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You remember that you performed it exactly 106 times?! Impressive, you should perform a super memory act with recall like that. Smile
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Jamie, I do actually!
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Do you have to use the rubber band to strap in the paper? Seems very weird to rip out the page, place it on top of the book, than secure it in place with the rubber band. What is the correct handling to this routine? Anyone?

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Mysticalsales, I have already answered that question, you don't have to, but he recommends it and it helps in concealing the method

He doesn't recommend securing the paper in place.
The recommended handling involves securing the cover in place and having the paper loose so it is easy to tear off by the participant.
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Guys, we're discussing method here.

Out of respect for Mark Elsdon we should take this chat downstairs. Agreed?
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Agreed, I have tried not to expose but the video is a bit exposure-ish
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Professorwwho: I took the video off. That is what it looks like (+ the things Jamie said). I don't see how it's exposure. The method itself is very fragile for magicians.
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Spypad uses Butterfly - John riggs method (m**** s****).
What are the differences between Spypad and the butterfly ?
Thank you in advance.
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An uncut demo would be nice here!

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Someone put up a good demo, would like to see the real handling.
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I have the same question as Dreda
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The Butterfly is superbly crafted and works well. Spy Pad is not and I can't get it to work at all.
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I just ordered the Butterfly, thanks J100taylor for confirmation. Cant go wrong with Riggs.
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The Butterfly is superbly crafted and works well. Spy Pad is not and I can't get it to work at all.

My six year old nephew can use the spypad, I don't get what your issue is!? There's nothing to it.
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Someone put up a good demo, would like to see the real handling.

Also interested in an uncut video to see the handling !
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Someone put up a good demo, would like to see the real handling.

Also interested in an uncut video to see the handling !

No chance.

This is mentalism remember.

An uncut demo would be tantamount to exposure.

If you want the secret you're going to have to pay like everyone else.
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