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So Target moved to Canada a year or so ago. Last night I walked through one. It looked like a clean and decently laid-out department store full of low-cost marginal quality goods. As if we needed another one.

I read today that Target has lost $941M on Canadian expansion.

So what are we missing? What are Canadians not getting out of the Target experience? Apart from pretending that it's a fancy French store pronounced "Tar zhay"?
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Http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/target-c.......2551942

I saw another article that said that Target had markedly lower customer satisfaction scores than Hudson's Bay Company, a competitor that it doesn't face in my part of the USA, to the best of my knowledge (maybe they're in America in other markets).
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Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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I've heard of the Hudson Bay company, just never seen one of those stores around my area either.
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We have one in town. Personally, I pretty much never shop there. An upscale K-Mart? (Which have all closed down here locally, I think.)

But then, I do most my shopping either online or at Costco.
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Hudson's Bay started out in the 17th century as a fur-trading empire. For most of the 20th century it was one of the better department stores in Canada. In the 1980s and 19902 retail changed, with several well-established Canadian chains closing their doors for good. Hudson's Bay survived. Walmart moved in and retail has never been the same.

In 2008 an American conglomerate bought the Hudson's Bay. The store is a shadow of its former self, but it somehow survives. I suspect that good locations, customer loyalty and tradition are holding it up more than anything.

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Wal Mart put a serious hurting on Kmart. Kmart try to attack Wal Mart at it's strength, which was to attempt to undersell Wal Mart. Wal Mart simply had more resources and could win a price war against K Mart, so K Mart paid the price for attacking Wal Mart at it's strong point. Wal Mart also targeted easy pickings in the local neighborhoods, which were the local mom and pop stores. The mom and pop stores didn't adapt to a niche market and so were put out of business by Wal Mart as well. Looking at it from a Go board perspective, Wal Mart's attack on the mom and pop stores are similar to attacking an opponents weak stone groupings that are isolated off from the main group of stones on the board. KMart's attack failed because it attempted to attack and capture territory (market share) away from Wal Mart's strong set of stones on the board (in this case, it is analogous to the market position of low price and Wal Mart's strong point of not letting anybody under sell them and having the resources to back that up).

KMart's failed attack on Wal Mart was very much an attrition based, direct, head on attack, which in many cases, especially when going up against a monster like Wal Mart you are better off using an indirect attack method that strikes at some of Wal Mart's weakness (such as terrible customer service and poor quality in many of it's products).
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I kind of like Target. I liked what they did with David Blaine where he did that spinning stunt on top of one of their stores in exchange for them financing his tour of children's hospitals. Plus they sell some nice stuff.
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Target is where you pay a little more not to have to go to WalMart.
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Target is where you pay a little more not to have to go to WalMart.


Can't argue with that!
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We have Winco here that's my WM alternatives.
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Target is yet another giant outlet in the west for communist slave child labour goods. You can get The Communist Manifesto (Reprint) (Hardcover) Friedrich Engels, Karl Marx, E. J. Hobsbawm for $14.40 List: $16.95 - Save (15%). I hope Canadians are not missing that on the slow boat to China, for they will need to understand the system when they arrive along with the rest of us.
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The download is free, tommy.
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Well I always carry my little Red Book and wear my uniform, just to stop the police spraying me with pepper spray and beating me to death on the car parks of the China shops here in England.
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That was Mao. I prefer Marx's book.
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Target is yet another giant outlet in the west for communist slave child labour goods.

Manufactured for Capitalists!! And incidently, with a large influx now of foreign (i.e. American) capitalist investment into the now privately owned Chinese factories.
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I don't think China is so communist anymore (if they ever really were). They seem to have taken a lesson from Hong Kong and gotten on board with capitalism and it's paid off for them. China can't be communism as Marx intended it simply because the power elite in China control everything and that's the opposite of what Marx wanted.
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If conditions in an area are so bad that the best that many can do is work at company X under conditions Y for wage Z, and Y and Z sound horrible, then it must be a sort of irony to rip company X, when they're providing the best option available to the area's residents. I mean, if they're willing to work at that wage under those conditions, imagine the shape they'd be in if company X weren't there.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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Generally, I prefer Costco. On the other hand, I rarely manage to get out of Costco with less than a full car trunk worth of stuff, so there's that. (Costco is the main reason we bought a second freezer.)
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If conditions in an area are so bad that the best that many can do is work at company X under conditions Y for wage Z, and Y and Z sound horrible, then it must be a sort of irony to rip company X, when they're providing the best option available to the area's residents. I mean, if they're willing to work at that wage under those conditions, imagine the shape they'd be in if company X weren't there.

Appealing, but incorrect argument.
When conditions are that bad, you organize and refuse to work. See Bangladesh after the recent factory buildings collapse.
Or overthrow the system that allows foreign investors to exploit its people and resources.
Take over the factories and let working people run them.
Anything else is enabling exploitation to continue.
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