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This.

Hahahahahahahaha.


Aaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha.


Haha.


Hahaha.


Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa!
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I know the story, I just don't see any humor in this. What am I missing?
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From Ha-aretz (Israeli newspaper): "Even harsh critics of Putin's democratic record admit it's hard to fault his attitude toward the Jewish community... there is a near consensus that Putin, whose successor was elected this week and will step down in two months, has been pro-Jewish throughout the eight years of his presidency. Even severe critics of his democratic record, such as former minister Natan Sharansky, admit that it's hard to fault Putin's record when it comes to his attitude towards the Jewish community. "

http://www.haaretz.com/news/putin-not-so......1.240896
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Putin seems to have a habit of trying to abdicate responsibility by claiming that every group acting on his behalf is "unofficial."
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Stumbled onto this today. Interesting. Claims that Putin has lost his mind (like most news, take it with a grain of salt until confirmed by many sources):

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/11685......nference
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I have to say that the irony of such an extreme homophobe claiming to be standing up against any form of bigotry is pretty interesting.
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On Mar 5, 2014, critter wrote:
I have to say that the irony of such an extreme homophobe claiming to be standing up against any form of bigotry is pretty interesting.



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I really don't know anything of Putin's sporting interests beyond equestrianism.

Of course he is more than just a homophobe...


...he also hates women Smile

http://www.policymic.com/articles/58593/......mophobia
http://www.supajam.com/news/story/Putin-......omophobe
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I miss all the good liberal dog whistles! I have to admit, I would never have gotten "he hates women" from "Speaking of the Pussy Riot protests, the best he could muster was he pitied them as they “started to engage in activities which are humiliating for women."
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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It's not the only link, it's a link. Sorry I didn't post the entire internet for you in order to justify my joke.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-27......our.html
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I think the (second) one was you posted was quite funny on its own.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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It was supposed to be. Putin's a joke. A scary scary joke.
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On Mar 4, 2014, Daryl -the other brother wrote:
I know the story, I just don't see any humor in this. What am I missing?


Well, the joke is that this is Putin's motivation for sending soldiers into Crimea. Just how stupid would one be to believe that?

Also, characterising the protestors, and by extension the interim government as being neo-nazis is almost beyond a joke.

If Putin invaded every European country with far-right anti-Semitic groups, the first country on his list would be.... Erm.... Russia.

That's the joke. It's a lie, and it's a ridiculous lie.
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Also, characterising the protestors, and by extension the interim government as being neo-nazis is almost beyond a joke.

Did you read my comments about Svoboda in the other thread? Comments?
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On Mar 5, 2014, LobowolfXXX wrote:
I miss all the good liberal dog whistles! I have to admit, I would never have gotten "he hates women" from "Speaking of the Pussy Riot protests, the best he could muster was he pitied them as they “started to engage in activities which are humiliating for women."


Yes, wonderful too that conservatives only support Putin when he is beating up on women protesting oppression of women and gays.
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Svoboda is the 4th largest party, it captured 10% of the vote. Whilst it is unpleasant, to say the least, you simply cannot tar all these protestors with the same brush.
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Svoboda is the 4th largest party, it captured 10% of the vote. Whilst it is unpleasant, to say the least, you simply cannot tar all these protestors with the same brush.

Sort of misses the point. It may have received only 10% of the vote but it joined a majority coalition, and now has its leaders in power.

http://www.channel4.com/news/svoboda-min......ar-right

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In the new Ukrainian government politicians linked to the far-right have taken posts from deputy prime minister to head of defence.

The man facing down Putin's aggression as secretary of the Ukrainian National Security and Defence Council is Andriy Parubiy. He oversees national security for the nation having previously served as security commandant during the anti-government protests in Kiev.

Parubiy was the founder of the Social National Party of Ukraine, a fascist party styled on Hitler's Nazis, with membership restricted to ethnic Ukrainians.

The Social National Party would go on to become Svoboda, the far-right nationalist party whose leader Oleh Tyahnybok was one of the three most high profile leaders of the Euromaidan protests - negotiating directly with the Yanukovych regime.

Overseeing the armed forces alongside Parubiy as the Deputy Secretary of National Security is Dmytro Yarosh, the leader of the Right Sector - a group of hardline nationalist streetfighters, who previously boasted they were ready for armed struggle to free Ukraine.

Inside Right Sector was an alliance of hardline nationalist groups including Patriot of Ukraine and the paramilitary group UNA-UNSO, who have fought against Russian troops in Chechnya and Moldova. Their members paraded in balaclavas and wore uniforms bearing far-right insignia, including the wolfsangel.

The new Deputy Prime Minister Oleksandr Sych is a member of the far-right Svoboda party, which the World Jewish Congress called on the EU to consider banning last year along with Greece's Golden Dawn.

The party, which has long called for a "national revolution" in Ukraine, has endured a long march from relative obscurity in the early 90s. Their declaration that Ukraine is controlled by a "Muscovite-Jewish mafia" has raised fears for the safety of the country's Jewish population.

Svoboda now controls the ecology and agricultural ministry with Andriy Mokhnyk, the deputy head of Svoboda, running ecology and Ihor Shvaika as agriculture minister.

The most important office seized by Svoboda is that of deputy prime minister, now occupied by Oleksandr Sych, whose position on abortion rights and comments about rape provoked an international outcry.

He has been criticised for declaring: "Women should lead the kind of lifestyle to avoid the risk of rape, including one from drinking alcohol and being in controversial company".

Svoboda member Oleh Makhnitsky is now acting prosecutor general.

The initial actions of the interim government have included forcing making Ukrainian the only official language of the nation and making moves to remove a law which forbids "excusing the crimes of fascism".
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Svoboda is the 4th largest party, it captured 10% of the vote. Whilst it is unpleasant, to say the least, you simply cannot tar all these protestors with the same brush.

Agreed, there are many different factions within the protestors' ranks. What we've learned from recent history (Egypt) is that powerful elements from within the protestors' ranks(remember the Muslim Brotherhood?) use the popular disapproval to gain power and subvert the will of the more democratic elements amongst the protestors.

That Svoboda now has control of the Enforcement and judicial apparatus of the Ukraine, is to me, at the very least, troubling. This is straight out of the Fascist playbook and Mein Kampf.
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