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Hello to everyone! Smile

It's been a long time since my last post on this forum. I've been working hard on new ideas, effects and concepts, as always.

And I'm very proud to present: Legion - The Name Divination of the Century.

Legion is a new system that will allow you to know the name of anyone almost instantly, without asking spectators to write down the name or without the performer getting close or touching them. It works for English names only. The method is very easy and practical, and the fi*****g is minimal. You will be able to do it over the phone and via Skype too.


For those who get Legion I will include also 2 more amazing manuscripts:


i) 'The Eyes of Wisdom', a very simple approach to perform book tests with borrowed books, and..

ii) My personal take on the classic Add a Number plot. It definitely takes the effect to new heights and makes it more entertaining and emotionally relevant to your audience!

Right now I'm giving Legion some 'finishing touches', but for the moment I would like to show you a bit of a teaser to whet your appetite:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9mJcmKH6Fk

To be released, very soon...


If you have any questions, PM me.


Au revoir,


Andreu.
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Ok, I've decided to have the 3 Ebooks as separate releases: I don't really want to force or push customers to get them all at once and I rather prefer each one of you to make your choice as to what you want to have.

I'm happy to say they will be available very soon (I'm calculating this week), thanks to everyone for the PM's and questions. Smile

If you're looking for powerful and practical material, this is it.


Kind regards,


Andreu.
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Is the method different from that of Peter Turner's effect in Bigger Fish 2? If you're not aware of that routine, probably best check ASAP...

If it's entirely different then I'm interested in taking a look at this ;-)
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You say it works only for english names, can it really not be adapted to another language with some work?
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Any Info on the price of the ebook?
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Hi Psychomind, I saw a link somewhere and if I recall correctly, the price was £30 or approximately $50 US.

I think perhaps there are some more questions that ought to be asked here:

Is this a 100% hit rate - ALWAYS?
Are the names from the US or UK? I've found that there are definite distinct differences between the cultures and name sets.
Have you honed this material through numerous performances?
Is the entirety of this technique original, or where it isn't - have you done the proper crediting and obtained the necessary permissions?

Until I saw answers to all these questions, I'd recommend caution.

Best,

Atlas
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On Mar 20, 2014, MagicAtlas wrote:
Hi Psychomind, I saw a link somewhere and if I recall correctly, the price was £30 or approximately $50 US.

I think perhaps there are some more questions that ought to be asked here:

Is this a 100% hit rate - ALWAYS?
Are the names from the US or UK? I've found that there are definite distinct differences between the cultures and name sets.
Have you honed this material through numerous performances?
Is the entirety of this technique original, or where it isn't - have you done the proper crediting and obtained the necessary permissions?

Until I saw answers to all these questions, I'd recommend caution.

Best,

Atlas


Thanks for the answer Atlas, I will also be looking for the answers you are looking for before buying it.
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It's available now, for 30 UK pounds. In the absence of a response to the questions Atlas asks, the one observation I can make is that Andreu does state this works only with 'English' names. The cover of the ebook shows names that include: Giselle, Sheryl, Bryant, Kennedy, Tushka, Phoebe, Willy, Jordan and Jorge.

So my question to Andreu would be, can you please confirm that the method includes 100% accurate divination of any of the names on the cover amongst others? If so then this could be extremely interesting. If not, then I think for the price, buyers need to be aware of any general limitations so as to set an appropriate expectation.
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Where can this be purchased?
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Cheers mate.

This is very likely gonna be along the lines of focusing on a name of someone you know amongst a list etc, though I'm only basing this off of the kind of thing he has already released.
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To be fair he didn't specify which Century this Name Divination is of.
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Giselle, Bryant, Kennedy, Tushka and Jorge spelt with a J?.Not heard of many English name's like that?.
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Yeah it's confusing isn't it - most of those names aren't usual English names.

The description says it'll work over the phone so possibly no list involved...

Andreu - you really need to join this thread and talk about your product if you're going to sell this to us!
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This needs a lot more detail...there are any number of existing mentalism routines out there at the moment that could meet the criteria of this effect..What makes it so special ?
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Not looking good, is it? If the creator of this ebook doesn't respond to the questions of potential buyers here, alarm bells ring. I'm giving this one a wide berth until Andreu rejoins this thread and gives us a little more information on what exactly we'd be buying.
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Here's the review by Stepehen Young
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Hello everyone! And sorry for the delay responding: the "Notify by Email" checkbox didn't work for me this time (lol).

Legion only works for English names and the hit rate is very, very high - I haven't ever failed, I did perform it for pros via chat and they definitely said it was an amazing and clever approach to this amazing feat that every mentalist should have on his arsenal.. after all if you actually read minds, you should tell someone's name and not ask it, right? Smile

The method does involve looking (peeking) at 1 page - if you can do this, you can perform Legion. The system is not a contrived / weird stuff but it's something really simple, real and natural that can be even Googled by spectators (read Stephen's review). I also give several performance tips and subtleties that will guarantee you get the name right.

Other approaches include combining Legion with an i**p p*d, using Dunninger Ploy and more. The effect becomes deadly if you follow several of these approaches, I also explain how the extra layer of deception makes it extra hard for a layman to backtrack and much more convincing than any other approaches.

I will definitely use Legion at my performances as soon as I'm done adapting the system to work in spanish.

Thanks a lot for your interest in the effect gentlemen.

Let me know of any questions you have!


Kind regards,


Andreu.
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HI Andreu

Without revealing what does Stephen mean by numerology and is this hard to perform Close-up?

Thanks
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Okay, let's look at this again. We've heard from Andreu, and he had a chance to address specific questions:

Is this a 100% hit rate - ALWAYS? - Unless I misunderstood him, no. And his answer was one that leaves me wary. He said something along the lines of "I've not missed" though later intimates that he hasn't performed this often.
Are the names from the US or UK? - Overlooked.
Have you honed this material through numerous performances? - Glossed over, though there were some Skype performances. It doesn't sound as though he has performed it in his native country.
Is the entirety of this technique original, or where it isn't - have you done the proper crediting and obtained the necessary permissions? - Overlooked. This is especially disconcerting.

I don't know what his approach is here. But rather than spend $50, I'll throw this out - why don't you look up the most common names for men and women by decade for the last fifty years, and use The Prodigal to create something that works for the top fifteen based on gender for each decade. Which system you then employ is based on the gender and approximate age of the person you are speaking to. All you have to do is ask them to think of a good friend and they'll think of someone in their age group. In fact, in my Facebook Prodigal group - unless I've misremembered - I suggested something exactly like this...ages ago.

As far as a cold reading goes, there was a discussion in Inner Thoughts a few years back about cold reads regarding families and their cultural and religious backgrounds based on names.

At this stage, I'd still recommend caution.

Best,

Atlas
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