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S2000magician
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We own a dog, two cats, and two horses. A couple of weeks ago I took the dog into the vet to have his teeth cleaned. When I fetched him, the gentleman who'd cleaned his teeth remarked that it was obvious that we took very good care of him. We've received similar comments about our care of the cats, and our care of the horses. Except for the times when he deliberately antagonize the cats (always under circumstances when they fully deserve to be antagonized), we do, generally, take very good care of our pets. Indeed, we adore our pets. (Note: horses aren't supposed to be considered pets - they're livestock - but we're probably a bit too soft with them, on the whole.) That said, I cannot understand people who treat their pets shabbily. Last night there was a story on the local news about a dog-fighting ring: the dogs were treated deplorably. Such an attitude is beyond my ability to comprehend.
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I agree 100%. I can't stand to see anyone abuse or neglect an animal. Personally I think Michael Vick should have been banned from football. I know out last dog we had about 8 years. I think I spent close to %6000.00 trying to save him from cancer. We lost the battle and I cried like a baby when we had him put to sleep.
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In our house we go beyond the pets. My SO is an animal LOVER: did animal rescues, had 6 cats when I met her and is absolutely an animal fanatic. Unfortunately, I'm allergic to most animals so she had to find homes with family members for the cats. But she was depressed not having any animals to care for (other than this one) so she has adopted all the wildlife around my house. Birds, squirrels, deer, racoons, possums, skunks, and all other roaming creatures eat well on our property. No food in my house is ever thrown out. It is kept for the animals.
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Right with you on that one Bill. I can't even watch those animal abuse commercials.
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On Mar 12, 2014, S2000magician wrote:
We own a dog, two cats, and two horses.

A couple of weeks ago I took the dog into the vet to have his teeth cleaned. When I fetched him, the gentleman who'd cleaned his teeth remarked that it was obvious that we took very good care of him. We've received similar comments about our care of the cats, and our care of the horses. Except for the times when he deliberately antagonize the cats (always under circumstances when they fully deserve to be antagonized), we do, generally, take very good care of our pets. Indeed, we adore our pets. (Note: horses aren't supposed to be considered pets - they're livestock - but we're probably a bit too soft with them, on the whole.)

That said, I cannot understand people who treat their pets shabbily. Last night there was a story on the local news about a dog-fighting ring: the dogs were treated deplorably. Such an attitude is beyond my ability to comprehend.


I don't approve of animal fighting rings, but if you're GOING to pit your animals against each other in the ring, shouldn't you, by rights, treat that animal, that source of your bread and butter, fairly well?
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And yet as a society, we've shown that we overwhelmingly ssupport watching two humans in a cage engaged in bloody combat, where for the most part, an unconscious man receives crushing blows to the head to the cheers of millions.
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On Mar 13, 2014, magicfish wrote:
And yet as a society, we've shown that we overwhelmingly ssupport watching two humans in a cage engaged in bloody combat, where for the most part, an unconscious man receives crushing blows to the head to the cheers of millions.


The password is: informed consent.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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So you agree.
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I have no problem with two consenting individuals fighting it out.
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I just wish my wife treated me as good as she treats our little dog. Smile


No, I too can't stand to see anyone abuse or neglect an animal, any animal.


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Heck, I even feed strays.
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"Note: horses aren't supposed to be considered pets - they're livestock"

WHAT??? Say it ain't so! Pretty sure you were talking technical, but our horses are just really, really big pets...
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Do pitbulls want to fight each other?
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I absolutely love the way a feel good thread can be turned on its ear to further one persons agenda. Thanks magicfish.

That aside we treat our dogs very well. We live in a part of the country that for whatever reason it is not the norm. Not by a longshot.

Suffice as to say I think you vet a pet it is a moral obligation. Only an opinion. Not wanting to hijack the thread.
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Wrong again, Danny, I love boxing and I love MMA. Who's got the agenda? Keep chasing, bud.
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Sorry, S2000, Doyle's been doing that to me for ten years. Back to the topic.
Human fighters want to fight each other, they enjoy it, and so do the fans.
In your opinion, Do you think Pitbulls enjoy fighting each other? Does it matter?
Do they crave it? Are they unhappy if they aren't allowed to fight?
Is it irrelevant because it was our cruel breeding that led to their "desire"?
Just looking for some interesting discussion here contrary to what Danny thinks. But if you agree with him that I've derailed it, I apologize to you.
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Just for some background, I am a dog and cat lover. I am an aquarist and try to provide the best most natural environment I can for my fish. Im a bird watcher and a member of the Toronto Entymological society. If my wife sees a bug in the house I capture it and release it outdoors.
I am a bird of prey enthusiast.
I donate to habitat preservation projects.
I volunteer with Ontario Streams. An organization that goes out and cleans trash from the banks of rivers and streams.
I strongly oppose cock fighting, dog fighting, puppy mills etc.

Having said all this, I do have some concerns.
We had a case here a few years back where an OSPCA official handcuffed a man to his own car because he left his dog in the car on a hot day. The official took the dog to get medical attention. The Owner was robbed and beaten to within an inch of his life while cuffed to his car.
the result? The official was applauded and the owner was treated as though he deserved what he got.
This type of thing concerns me.
People seem to care about the animsl but not the human. I think we should care about both.
So I come full circle. We revile two dogs fighting and we relish two humans fighting.
It's interesting. (Even without the consent thing).
Just some food for thought. Anyway. Im not interested in anger or hostility, just stimulating viewpoints.
Cheers guys.
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Should meat eaters be concerned about animal welfare? I haven't seen any animal willingly go into the slaughter house.

Just sayin'
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On Mar 17, 2014, Natural Mystic wrote:
Should meat eaters be concerned about animal welfare? I haven't seen any animal willingly go into the slaughter house.

Just sayin'

Yes they should. I think we all should.
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