On Mar 24, 2014, Dynamike wrote:
It is great this thread has been switched to "The Good News." Thank God Almighty we are free!

On Mar 24, 2014, Dynamike wrote:.

Thank God Almighty we are free!

On Mar 23, 2014, kimmo wrote:

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On Mar 23, 2014, wwhokie1 wrote:

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On Mar 23, 2014, kimmo wrote:
Tom - I don't comment on threads in the Gospel section. Go there if you want to talk about God with like-minded people who will not challenge your beliefs.

It may surprise you that I recently lectured for the FCM here in England and they welcomed someone with opposing views.

Kimmo, I am impressed that they invited you, would have loved to have been there. Listening is an uncommon skill, listening to someone with opposing views is really rare. I took an English class in college which focused on debate and argumentation. One of our assignments was to take a controversial topic, state our position and then argue for the opposing view. The professor required us to genuinely try to defend the opposing position and rejected any efforts that did not truly try to defeat our own stated views. Some students just couldn't do it. They were incapable of challenging their own beliefs. I found it to be one of the most useful assignments I ever had in college, and helped me to look at opposing views differently. By the way, the professor was an atheist, I am not. I aced the class, I was her favorite student, she loved every paper I wrote, read one of my papers to the class as an example. Her position was that she didn't care what you believed, but know why you believe it. What she had no respect for was people who were too intellectually lazy to take a stand for something, or to have no reason for the stand they take. Challenge what you believe, know what you believe, and be able to identify the faulty, illogical arguments that people make. That is what she taught us. She was one of my favorite professors.

Thanks - a lot of my atheist friends thought I was crazy to go, but I had a great time and I sat in on the church service and all the Gospel lectures that day. I poked fun at religion and Christianity throughout my lecture and evening show and everyone laughed along with me. I made lots of friends there and I think we learned a little bit about each other.

There were a couple of things that disturbed me deeply, even though they seemed normal to the others attending, but on the whole I found it a great experience and wouldn't hesitate to go back.

On Mar 23, 2014, kimmo wrote:

I am happy to respect that the 'Good News' section does not welcome atheists and I stay out of there.

On Mar 24, 2014, TomBoleware wrote:
Roger, drop it.

kimmo has already made it clear that he doesn't want to come here and start trouble.

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On Mar 23, 2014, kimmo wrote:

I am happy to respect that the 'Good News' section does not welcome atheists and I stay out of there.

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On Mar 25, 2014, Jolly Roger wrote:




Tom..........this thread started on the Little Darlings. It has been moved over here for whatever reason,

On Mar 25, 2014, Dynamike wrote:

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On Mar 25, 2014, Jolly Roger wrote:




Tom..........this thread started on the Little Darlings. It has been moved over here for whatever reason,

The reason is so this thread will stay peaceful by keeping it away from them. If we invite any of them imagine what this thread will turn into. I agree with Tom.

On Mar 23, 2014, Payne wrote:

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On Mar 23, 2014, pbj100 wrote:
Kimmo I agree with you religion should not be taught until adulthood when a person is old enough to make an informed decision and not brain washing our kids with it from a young age . I particularly object to religion at school phil

But if one waited until they were old enough to made an informed decision relying only on the facts. Then they wouldn't choose to be religious

On Mar 25, 2014, Bryan Drake Show wrote:

I'm going to assume that smiley means that all of that post was tongue in cheek being that some of the best apologists the Christian faith has were raised in nonchristian homes. But I do know that you are a witty fellow so I never know how to take it ha ha.

On Mar 25, 2014, Payne wrote:

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On Mar 25, 2014, Bryan Drake Show wrote:

I'm going to assume that smiley means that all of that post was tongue in cheek being that some of the best apologists the Christian faith has were raised in nonchristian homes. But I do know that you are a witty fellow so I never know how to take it ha ha.

Yes, it was meant to be "tongue in cheek" at least partially I'd comment further but I'm not allowed to express my views on matters such as these in here.

On Mar 25, 2014, Bryan Drake Show wrote:

Ha ha ha. That's why I love you Payne! One of these days, maybe you'll join the light side... ;0)