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magicofCurtis Inner circle Los Angeles 2545 Posts |
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On Mar 25, 2014, Neale Bacon wrote: Neale, If you use email as a form to reach out to a contact person for an event it can be very affective. It has been for me. Small example: Dear xxxx, I am want to introduce myself I am a xxxxx and I was wondering if you could direct me to the person who handles the xxxxx and the xxx for your organize. Cheers Names website phone number ---(although use more details and info about what you are looking for) Now just emailing some type of ad could be not as successful. This is where opt in emails are good.
Curtis Lovell II
http://www.CurtisLovell.com http://www.MagicofCurtis.com www.facebook.com/curtislovellii Los Angeles, California - U.S.A. |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
I do not open email from people I do not know. I do not open regular mail from people I do not know. I am much like the vast majority of the world if you look at rates people have with these methods.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Neale Bacon Inner circle Burnaby BC Canada 1775 Posts |
Curtis - I like that idea.
To all the naysayers - to each his own.
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Burnaby BC Canada's Favourite Family Ventriloquist www.baconandfriends.com |
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harris Inner circle Harris Deutsch 8812 Posts |
I have had some success when sending a specific email to a specific person for a specific event.
Generally speaking Harris part time pro-(I don't do shows full time)though I am....a full time professional before, during and after a program. When I do get a bite and can close the deal...I do a face / smile jump for joy......later my wife and I dance in the kitchen...She's Ginger....I'm Fred
Harris Deutsch aka dr laugh
drlaugh4u@gmail.com music, magic and marvelous toys http://magician.org/member/drlaugh4u |
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Donald Dunphy Inner circle Victoria, BC, Canada 7563 Posts |
Here is an interesting blog post, by a fellow Canadian performer, on the subject of emails & SPAM:
http://partshowpartbusiness.com/2014/04/......as-spam/ - Donald
Donald Dunphy is a Victoria Magician, British Columbia, Canada.
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Donald Dunphy Inner circle Victoria, BC, Canada 7563 Posts |
I see some people / companies referring to the new Canadian anti-spam legislation in their recent emails to me, saying that if I want to opt out of their emails to let them know (they aren't telling me I have to opt in again, to stay on their current list):
http://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/030.nsf/eng/h_00039.html From what I'm reading, this will affect those who send spam or unsolicited newsletter emails, here in Canada. Individuals and companies will have to be careful with sending any sort of mass email (list of daycares, schools, past customers, etc.), unless their customers have really opted in. You'll likely have to prove that people on an email list have opted in. - Donald
Donald Dunphy is a Victoria Magician, British Columbia, Canada.
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manofcards Regular user 114 Posts |
I highly suggest reading Seth Godin's Permission Marketing. He give's away the first 4 chapters of his book if you sign up to his newsletter (see what he's doing?). http://www.sethgodin.com/permission/
In the past, I have sent 1,000s of unsolicited emails. If you decide to go this route, it's very important that you don't use your host to send them. They often have hourly quotas for how many emails you can send and receive. If you go over, they can shutdown your service. Also, if people mark your emails as spam, your entire site can get blacklisted. http://mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx The way around these problems is to use a smtp server. I use Mandrill which connects with Mailchimp. They allow you to send 12,000 emails a month for free and let you keep track of how many people opened and marked your emails as spam. Even if you aren't planning on sending out tons of emails, I suggest sending all of your email through a smtp server. If you already have a list of customers, add them all to your email list. In the first email that you send, explain that you have done business in the past and are sending out weekly or monthly emails. Tell them the benefits of receiving them. Be sure to have an unsubscribe link at the bottom of the email. If they already know who you are and like you, you won't have a problem (although you will get people who unsubscribe). Hope that helps, William Rader |
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Donald Dunphy Inner circle Victoria, BC, Canada 7563 Posts |
So, you were sending out unsolicited marketing emails in mass batches, not individually?
Isn't that the very definition of spam? - Donald P.S. The reason that I posted the link to info on the new Canadian Anti-Spam Legislation, is that the person who started this thread is a fellow Canadian. Laws can vary country to country.
Donald Dunphy is a Victoria Magician, British Columbia, Canada.
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krissheppard New user 63 Posts |
Josh London, I know you do email newsletters, but do you ever send out any snail mail marketing pieces? If so, what do you send and how do you decide which to do?
Successful Performercast
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manofcards Regular user 114 Posts |
Donald, can you please explain the difference in sending 10 emails in bulk or clicking send on each email individually? Is one of these spam and is the other not?
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Donald Dunphy Inner circle Victoria, BC, Canada 7563 Posts |
"Definitions of spam usually include the aspects that email is unsolicited and sent in bulk."
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_spam - Donald
Donald Dunphy is a Victoria Magician, British Columbia, Canada.
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manofcards Regular user 114 Posts |
It's very hard to define spam since the courts have ruled differently on many cases. Here in the US we have the CAN-SPAM ACT of 2003. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAN-SPAM_Act_of_2003
The first sentence of your Wikipedia link states, "Email spam, also known as junk email or unsolicited bulk email (UBE), is a subset of electronic spam involving nearly identical messages sent to numerous recipients by email." What does nearly identical mean? How much needs to be different in order for them not to be spam? My emails are customized and different for each and every recipient. Here is another definition from http://www.spamhaus.org Technical Definition of Spam An electronic message is "spam" if (A) the recipient's personal identity and context are irrelevant because the message is equally applicable to many other potential recipients; AND (B) the recipient has not verifiably granted deliberate, explicit, and still-revocable permission for it to be sent. My recipient's personal identity is relevant because each email is not equally applicable to many recipients. In other words, it wouldn't make sense for you to receive my email. In conclusion, by some definitions, an argument could be made that I'm spamming (which is legal under certain conditions in the US). Mainly, I believe that if you send emails, it's important for them to be completely relevant to the recipient. In the years that I've been sending mail, I have had 0 spam complaints. I think one reason is because I'm not selling anything! William |
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Donald Dunphy Inner circle Victoria, BC, Canada 7563 Posts |
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On Jun 25, 2014, manofcards wrote: The reason I assumed that you were discussing the concept of spamming, was because of this part of your previous post. I assumed you were talking about ways to get around "getting into trouble", and admitting that you've had problems in the past with people marking your emails as spam. Initially, I also didn't get the impression that you were talking about personalizing each email. - Donald
Donald Dunphy is a Victoria Magician, British Columbia, Canada.
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manofcards Regular user 114 Posts |
I was only giving advice on how to send a lot of emails.
I have noticed that email from my gmail account will often end up in clients' spam folders. I don't quite understand why, but I assume it's because of the subject matter and the attachments. Also, if you have a new domain, it doesn't have creditability and will have a much better chance of going to spam folders. Going through an smtp server helps guarantee your mail is hitting their inbox. I also completely agree with Leif David's article that you posted earlier. He gives very good advice. |
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