I'm looking for a good quality folder. But I had one before and the was center cut. Are there any other types of this coin that you can't see a giant slit round the middle of the coin?

Thanks

Alan

Get a half or quarter with a "profile" cut like these made by Johnson Precision Magic:

Hi boydy!
I have two folding coins. One coin in bottle from Roy Kueppers and one bite coin from Tango. Roy's cuts are much more invisible. But I never had a problem with either coins. The structure of the routines doesn't allow the spectator to see the slits.
I can take a photo of the coins if you want.

Coollllll! Never knew about these.

Thanks

Magoniko,

Can you describe what you mean about invisible?

Regards Alan

I'm with inigmntoya: get a Johnson folding half. Well made, at a decent price.

Yea If you are Just doing Coin in the Bottle A Johnson Folder Is Fine! They are never going to see it outside the bottle Anyway!

Can someone please recommend what size rubber bands to use with a profile cut Johnson folding Half Dollar? I have Medium-light 5/16ths band but they do not seem to seat correctly. I have tried cleaning the groove and got a fair amount of crud out but there may still be more.

Never mind. I soaked the coin in Lacquer thinner than ran a piece of upholstery thread through the groove and the band seats fine now.

I just dig out the old band with an fine tip Exacto Knife blade.

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Well, you can also do ring thru half dollar trick, where the half dollar is placed in the center of a handkerchief, and the corners gathered, and a borrowed finger ring is threaded onto the hank, then drawn down to the captured coin. Put your hand around it and extract the ring. A real puzzler.

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All folding coins will eventually show some wear at the seams, but I don't think you will live long enough for that to happen. After all it is folding coin. It mainly has to do with how much you respect your props.

As far as the band groove, if it really bother you, and you are not a good enough performer to know switches and ways to cover problem spectators, then one professional, I think it was Scotty York, suggested working bar soap into the grove. Would imagine the harder Bee's wax or wax from the hardware store would work as well. The Bee's wax would match in color better. Of course, you would have to dig it out when replacing the band, a lot of time wasted in my opinion.

They use to actually have a real rubber band for these coins, but then they switched to this dental band. They only last 2 or 3 uses and have to be replaced. Some famous magician's recommend two bands, but I found that is 2 tight. The additional purpose of two bands was if one weakens or breaks, the other will keep it together.

If you think, that your spectators will see what you see, then don't buy any gaffed coin tricks. You will telegraph to them that you are using gimmick coins. And this will encourage them to question the props.

Learn some good coin switches and practice them until you are confident in your handling.

What is meant by invisible, you walk into a large room, and off to the side there is one piece of dust on the white carpet, if you are the type that can notice that piece of dust, then magic is not for you, because the other hundred people will not even know what you are talking about.

Most all handling of coins, they are shown as the spectator looks at the face or tail of the coin, the edge is only a shadow. No one looks at the edge of coin, they see it is a real half dollar. Why would they have to look any further.

And, very true, if doing the coin in bottle, they only look from the side and down through the neck. You never hand them the bottle without proper instructions. They see a real half dollar and handle it, you perform your miracle, they see a real half dollar in a bottle. You shake the bottle over their hands and a real half dollar lands in their hands. What is to question?

Boydy,
To answer your question, Roy Kueppers makes a nice folding coin with a profile cut.

Does anyone know what size or strength of band to use? It appears to be a 1/4 band but is it a 3 oz, 5 oz or 6.5 oz resistance.
I got whole bag of folding coins with broken bands. I ends up with 14 coins. That is a lot of pieces to put together.
Thanks.
Richard

There's no one answer. The tension a given band size gives depends on the size of the coin (half, quarter, etc) and how deep the groove is, etc. They're cheap, but a few different sizes and experiment.

Some one suggested using the stretching thread for craft bead bracelet.

.3mm or .6mm
I forget which. I am searching for the spool I purchase at Walmart for a couple of bucks.
Life time supply I sure!

That's what I use. Say go bye to dry rot.

Dental bands do not last at all and end up causing a lot of work.

I use 0.5mm Stretch Magic on folders and flippers.

I haven't updated this in a while but the info is still good:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/29h2osli3ju3t......CX8xDXra

I'm starting to play with my old folding coin again. I'm learning quickly I never understand how to properly use this. I've cleaned the grooves and seem to still be having slipping. I can fold the coin Into a package 2-3 times then the rubber band rolls out of the groove. Do you have any suggestions on how to fix this?

Make sure the grooves are really cleaned out. Pour enough Goof Off to cover the coin in a small glass and cover it tightly with plastic wrap (to avoid evaporation). Leave it overnight... Any old crusted stuff in the groove should dissolve and come out almost by itself.
Also make sure you're using the right size bands.

Excellent advice !!

I spent all day cleaning a groove out, today. I had not used it in a while and the actual rubber band (not latex based) had disintegrated. It left a crud that just did not want to come out. I used a needle that perfectly fit the groove and just kept scratching at it. Finally got it all out. Put the new band in, and works perfectly now.

I like the idea of furniture thread. I'll have to try that if this ever happens again!

I believe my coin is a Johnson. The profile cut really does hide the splits.

I’m new to folding coins (and in another thread I asked about what sort or shape of bottle might be optimal for doing the coin-into-bottle routine).

Here, I’d just like to ask, which is better (or which do you prefer): actually and visibly tapping a real coin against the outside of the bottle, and then palming it (in that same hand) when seeming to drive it through the glass and into the bottle?

Or showing a real coin but then ditching it, and then only pretending to tap it against the outside of the bottle, so that when it seems to go inside the bottle, that hand can instantly be shown empty?

Are both ways equally common, or is one way generally preferred over the other?

I've done variations of both. Usually, when I keep the coin and actually tap the bottle, once the penetration happens, spectators immediately look to see if there is another coin.

If I ditch the real coin before the penetration, I use my ring to tap the bottle. The sound gives a realism of a coin tapping. However, depending on the angle of the performance, this may not be practical at all.

So, I try to go with a real coin, perform the penetration, and then get the bottle close to the spectators immediately for them to see that magic has just happened. Then I ditch the real coin. For this reason, to answer your question from the other post, I prefer a green glass bottle. It makes it more difficult to see the groove of the coin.