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Pop Haydn Inner circle Los Angeles 3691 Posts |
If they can't keep drugs of all kinds, even the most dangerous, out of maximum security prison, how did they ever think they could keep them out of the country?
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
? Maybe it's not about winning a war in the classic sense so much as controlling a market for mood altering substances.
why aren't folks just getting sugar/caffeine rushes instead of using other stimulants? why aren't folks using alcohol as a depressant instead of seeking out other drugs? One could well imagine there are vested interests which don't like competition for their classic products, especially competition that can be grown and refined in small (potentially unregulated/taxed) local businesses.
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
People ARE getting caffeine and sugar rushes all of the time. And the amount of alcohol abuse in this country indicates that people ARE using it as a depressent.
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JoeJoe Inner circle Myrtle Beach 1915 Posts |
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On May 9, 2014, Chessmann wrote: I don't agree - there are a lot of people that need marijuana and can't get it. Colorado is seeing an increase in people with cancer/MS/glaucoma/etc relocating ... I'd bet money there are people that need and want marijuana that don't have criminal contacts to obtain it. And that is the real problem - since when did drug users become more important than sick people?? Disgusting that Chris Christie is willing to let productive members of society die in an effort to keep high school kids from getting marijuana. He most likely was given a shot or morphine after his lap-band surgery, why does he not worry kids will start using heroin? Total hypocrisy. And the debate over the medicinal use of marijuana is over ... there can be no doubt that marijuana does in fact have accepted medicinal value. -JoeJoe
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
The most dangerous drugs in your maximum security prisons don't seem to be working too well, on the people you are executing with them.
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lunatik Inner circle 3222 Posts |
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On May 11, 2014, JoeJoe wrote: It's absolutely ridiculous how easy it is to get a medical card for marijuana. They even have doctors that work in some of these shops so that they can issue a license immediately. Talking to various people who have these cards, 99% of them said that they just made up a condition to get their card, there were very few questions and out the door they walked with some bud in their pocket. VERY little regulation. But now that it's legal, more people are using, and more people are getting fired at their jobs.
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Pop Haydn Inner circle Los Angeles 3691 Posts |
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lunatik Inner circle 3222 Posts |
They can also use it for unemployment benefits, drug rehab, criminal cases...the list goes on! Colorado is such a great state!
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
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On May 11, 2014, lunatik wrote: Would you mind providing a citation for that bit of speculation? |
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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts |
Let's not freak ourselves out by pointing out the racism involved in western drug policy.
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
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On May 12, 2014, stoneunhinged wrote: That is, of course, the elephant in the room. The sentencing disparity between white and black defendants is staggering. |
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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts |
Sentencing is just the beginning. I mentioned Juarez: well, if several hundred Mexicans are murdered every year so that we can toke, snort, and inject, what's that to us? They're just Mexicans.
If cultures as far away as India use cannabis instead of the Anglo-Saxon-Germanic (Aryan?) preference for alcohol, well...that's about DRUGS! (Nevermind that there are huge economies dependent upon smuggling in the non-Anglo-Saxon-Germanic drugs for Anglo-Saxon-Germanic people.) The people are involved with NARCOTICS! Bhang or beer? Answer the question without resorting to making cultural distinctions. Yes, it's the elephant in the room |
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R.S. Regular user CT one day I'll have 184 Posts |
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On May 12, 2014, lunatik wrote: Just curious - which study did you get that 99% figure from? And which study reports that more people are getting fired at their jobs due to marijuana use? Are the firings due to marijuana-induced poor performance, or due to the fact that the (stodgily conservative) employer simply found out that the employee was a marijuana user? Or something else entirely? Ron
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lunatik Inner circle 3222 Posts |
These are people that I personally know and friends of friends. They were fired for having drug in their system mostly, a few were for 'performance' and later found them to have the drug in their system.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
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On May 12, 2014, mastermindreader wrote: Are you asking about root causes of (pre)judicial alluenza as it affects the rightou$?
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
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On May 12, 2014, stoneunhinged wrote: There's a whole herd of elephants in the room. But cultural and historical arbitrariness are two of the bigger ones. One other is children. Another is public safety.
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The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
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On May 12, 2014, Jonathan Townsend wrote: I wasn't asking about anything. I was making an observation. And I have no idea what you mean by "(pre) judicial alluenza." |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
Their favourite addiction of the people is the free stuff. So you sell the drugs to government, who provide the drugs for free on prescription to the people. The public, off their heads, will never see the catch and will live happily ever after. I wonder who has got the contracts already drawn up?
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
As ME points out - whose sense of safety. And is there a scarcity of "children"?
@bob: affluenza.
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
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On May 12, 2014, Jonathan Townsend wrote: I hope this is merely a joke I don't understand.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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