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swayne100
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Any suggestions?
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I do, my own, I also like Marc Spellman's.

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Yes. Simple sleight of hand does the trick quite well. You can do it easily with Vernon's Spellbound move.
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That's all I ever do is a simple s*itch. Currently, I'm using Brandon Wolf's Bison bend.
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On the NYCMS dvd series I have a routine where I bend a coin twice. First my coin, then a spectator's coin. Its a nice routine.
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Michael, what's the name of that routine?
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Any coin bend requires some kind of gimmick weather you use a tool that allows you tondo the bend in front of the spec
Or if you want to use a pre bent coin. As far as a product goes I like superman a lot
But it does ware out quickly. Either than that I will sometimes just have a pre bent nickle or dime into thumb tip. Works quite well all I'll sugest is pre scratch the coin as well.
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Any coin bend requires some kind of gimmick weather you use a tool that allows you tondo the bend in front of the spec
Or if you want to use a pre bent coin. As far as a product goes I like superman a lot
But it does ware out quickly. Either than that I will sometimes just have a pre bent nickle or dime into thumb tip. Works quite well all I'll sugest is pre scratch the coin as well.
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The bent quarter can be used to create a Perverse coin through the table.

(I posted this in the Perverse Magic thread of the Genii Forum back on April
2006.)

(I bend the quarter by holding each side with a pair of pliers and – bend it.)

The routine I do is to first pass a quarter through the table and explain I was lucky that it went so easily. That doesn’t always happen. Well, since I’m feeling lucky I’ll just do it again. This time I have trouble and I give up when I show the quarter is bent.

There are two ways I do this – one way the bent quarter is shown in the hand UNDER the table (it went but bent) and the other way in the hand ABOVE the table (it didn’t go).

I always pass the quarter through first as follows:

I borrow a quarter and take it in my right hand. I close my hand putting the coin in the classic palm and then I turn my hand palm down and pretend the coin is being held between my thumb and fingers. (I believe this is Al Schneider’s thinking) and then pretend to put the coin in my left hand. My right hand (with the quarter classic palmed) goes under the table and the left hand which is supposed to have the quarter) stays on top and “pushes” the quarter through.

The bent quarter is on my lap (actually, between my thighs) Slydini taught me how to pull the material from my left pants over to my right to cover the hole between my legs) and is taken and finger palmed in either my left hand or right hand depending on whether the coin will appear above the table (left hand) or below the table (right hand)

For the bent quarter to appear in the right hand below the table (it passed through) it is finger palmed in the right hand which goes below the table again and the left hand takes the borrowed quarter and performs Slydini’s Revolve Vanish (“The Best of Slydini and More” page 41). Show the quarter is not in the left hand and look upset when you bring out the right hand with the bent quarter.

For the bent quarter to appear in the left hand above the table (it didn’t pass through) it is finger palmed in the left hand while the right hand takes the real quarter and performs what I call the “Reverse Revolve”. It is Slydini’s Revolve vanish done with the right hand instead of the left hand but the right hand pretends it still has the coin and pretends to put it in the left hand and then goes under the table.. Struggle trying to get the coin to pass through the table and then show the bent quarter.

Either way, return the bent quarter to the lender and apologize.
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Ray. Its volume 16 - The Bent Coin Routine. Coins have been present so you don't need and expensive gimmick, and there is a cool subtlety to show the bent coin is the same as the pre bent coin.
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Rather than a spellbound type change, I like to do a more subtle switch because the beauty of a bent coin is that it can appear normal when held correctly. Then the bend can "happen" using subtle optic effects and you're left a lot cleaner.

Of course, the coin bending in their hand is still one of the best. Hundreds of ways to do it and one in Bobo if you need inspiration.
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As long as you can do a good utility switch or shuttle pass you can do a coin bend.
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Michael, thanks for the info. I'll check it out.
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I like to use it at times after a coins across to a spectators hand.

Stock line...you held onto it to tight.

Anyone have a different line?
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Ray, my post had a typo...it should have said that the coins were pre-bent, not present. Darn smart phones with autocorrect!
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Michael, I was wondering what that meant. Thanks.
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After reading through this I am not sure of what an "ungimmicked coin bend" would be.... it has to be bent at some point and that to me would make it a gimmicked trick. I use 2 different types of coin bends the the Sharpie type and the Rasmus Coin Bend. I use the Sharpie version for bending the spectator's initialed coin after revealing it from the nest of wallets and I use the Rasmus Coin Bend as a stand alone coin bend when I want to do one thing quickly that will shock them... I usually do a variation of the initialed quarter version shown on the DVD with the Rasmus Coin as well. Smile
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On May 21, 2014, David Fillary wrote:
Rather than a spellbound type change, I like to do a more subtle switch because the beauty of a bent coin is that it can appear normal when held correctly. Then the bend can "happen" using subtle optic effects and you're left a lot cleaner.


I do just that _WITH_ a spellbound move, but it's not quite a "bend", more of a slow motion karate coin, using one that looks like the KuKarate coins shown here: http://www.roykueppers.com/gallery.html

Make the spellbound switch but keep your fingers over the coin's face and slowly rub, pushing your middle finger slowly into the coin in a circular motion. It looks the coin is at first just bending inward a bit, then more as the coin "softens up", until finally your finger is all the way through the coin.
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Taterini, I would consider the effect to be non gaffed if you have a pre-bent coin and are doing a switch. Using the mechanisms is fine, but its a different method which has its own plusses and minuses. Nothing wrong with either method, they are just different approaches.
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On May 22, 2014, Michael Rubinstein wrote:
Taterini, I would consider the effect to be non gaffed if you have a pre-bent coin and are doing a switch. Using the mechanisms is fine, but its a different method which has its own plusses and minuses. Nothing wrong with either method, they are just different approaches.


Hey Michael -
I'm kind of confused (nothing new about that statement).... Isn't a pre-bent coin actually a gaff in the simplest form? The OP was asking about an ungimmicked coin bend which I would consider to mean a coin that has not been tampered with or one that is still flat. I would think of a gimmicked coin bend as a bend using something to tampered with or altered the coins appearance and a gaffed coin bend as one where the normal coin is traded out for another bent (gaffed) coin. I don't mean to split hairs but those 2 terms get thrown around a lot and I am not sure we all know what they actually refer to or how they differ. Maybe they fall in the grey area of magic terms????
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