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Greetings: I have a friend who wants to get into gospel magic so he can work with the youth program at his church. I've been a magician for going on 50 years, but am unacquainted with gospel magic, standard effects, etc. Can anyone recommend a water to wine effect that he could pick up as a dealer item or that I could teach him? Thanks in advance.
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I wonder if this might work:

http://youtu.be/nQTfsi6zzxc

Maybe adapt it somehow?

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Probably not, but thanks for replying. There's a way to do it with simple chemistry I've found.
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Ya know, a M*rr*r Gl*ss might work. Just a thought...

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Doug nice idea.

The next question should we do that effect??
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That all depends Harris. Smile Is someone more interested in duplicating Jesus's miracles for applause and amazement, or are they more interested in serving an awesome God? How many know what the significance was of Jesus turning water into wine? What meaning do most get from that? Can that same point be made in other ways?
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I like gospel magic but think I would stop short with turning water into wine. Just me.
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On Jul 25, 2014, boboswitch wrote:
I like gospel magic but think I would stop short with turning water into wine. Just me.

I'm interested in your thinking on this. Why not perform this effect?
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I kinda get his point. Some, er...Christians...ahem, might not take too kindly...if ya no-wudda-mean...

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Just to add to the discussion.

What if you chose to.
And

You
A. Talked about wedding
B. Effects of drinking
People wouldn't notice bad wine at the end
due to already consumed wine
C. Talk about you doing illusions and only
God / Jesus/ Holy Comforter can do the
Supernatural.
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Have you thought about curing leprosy?
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He reminded me this happened after a request from Jesus'
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I told him I had to filter my brain from
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In talking with my wife we were discussing whether Mary knew he was both fully man and fully God.

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I know a post can't accurately portray my tone or intention, but I say this without any judgement or condemnation. I have to agree with others on this post and would be hesitant to replicate any of Jesus' miracles. My concern would be giving credence to the common skeptic stance that Jesus merely used magic tricks to fool his followers.
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I know a post can't accurately portray my tone or intention, but I say this without any judgement or condemnation. I have to agree with others on this post and would be hesitant to replicate any of Jesus' miracles. My concern would be giving credence to the common skeptic stance that Jesus merely used magic tricks to fool his followers.


I think the answer lies with the audience

A retelling using magic for this story works in a Church setting, with a disclaimer that you use magic after reading the instructions - I always explain all I can do is mimic, the wine might look realastic but can't be drunk or appreciated like the REAL wine Jesus created.

I would never do this trick in front of disbelievers, but few if our Churches have many if those. For Outreach, I do a different programme.
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I have done this story by changing the color the water to a dark red and back again to a clear liquid.

I have also told this story by using pictures instead of liquids. I used a large folder that worked like a z-fold wallet, but was made of card-stock (yes, I made it)
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Good colring or real wine that can be actually drank. I can think of two approaches if I can get that info.
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It was good wine at the end of the wedding.
Usually the bad stuff was served.

We all know who Jesus' bride is.


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On Jul 30, 2014, Terapin wrote:
Have you thought about curing leprosy?


Comedy gold material here Smile

No way can one replicate the miracles of Jesus! In my opinion, Jesus is everyone's Savior, whether we believe it or not.
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I think maybe twisting it from coke to pepsi Smile


or water to cola, something like that.
making sure that people know that this is a trick and that Jesus.

some christians are may be offended, and frankly, they are always out there.
I think the thing is, it may put into question why you had wine at church and at a youth event.
are the youth having a party?

:)

I think for the sake of the word of God, we should maybe not do things that could put into question the acts of Jesus.
like water to wine, curing leprosy or making ears grow from freshly cut off ears.

I think there is a fine line in showing people a way to God and making people question the Power of God.

but in saying that, questioning the power of God isn't that bad if it makes us seek him more right?
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