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MSaber New user 50 Posts 
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You can always chalk it up to being psychology. But you definitely don't want to mislead people into thinking it's something supernatural or occult.
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Magical Minister New user 1 Post
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I’ve found that by having a comedy character, it enables me to do both magic and mentalism in church without any problems. They already know without my having to be always telling them that it’s not for real. My act is always more about the presentation than anything else , but every now and then I do something strong enough to knock their socks off, just to keep the adults on their toes.
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dbuckham New user Irvington, KY 2 Posts
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I know this is an old thread, but hey, I figured I post my recent experience. I've only done one mentalism trick in a church setting. It was this past Saturday at our Easter Egg hunt. I retold the story of Mary arriving at the tomb and "the gardener" seeing her weeping and asking her what was wrong.
I mentioned being a dad, a husband, and a minister to the audience (mostly kids with some parents). Regarding those roles, when I see someone hurting, especially someone I care about, I really want to know what is wrong. Sometimes people have difficulty expressing what's wrong. So I asked wouldn't it be good to just look and know...almost as if you can read someone's mind. I mentioned the gardener, we later find out, is Jesus and he knows why Mary is crying. I mentioned the more time you spend with someone, the easier it is to "read" them. I then selected two people I knew from the audience and riffed on Bob Cassidy's Name and Place routine. It was well received. Mostly because I didn't say I could read their minds, only pull out limited details...like a name and a place. I leaned into "Mary" (name) at the "Tomb" (place) looking for "Jesus" (name) and where he had "been taken" (place). When I couched the performance in these terms, it seemed to be well received. |
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wwhokie1 Special user 513 Posts
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Careful presentation is everything. Mentalism is more difficult under these circumstances than magic. People don't go see a magician thinking its real magic, but there are those convinced people can bend spoons with their minds.
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Mike Ince Inner circle 2048 Posts
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Audiences are made up of people who don't know what's possible. The possibility of mind reading is what makes mentalism intriguing. Several years ago I wanted to make a disclaimer. I adopted and slightly changed Terry Holley's admission that 'I'm not psychic, but in an hour some of you will be convinced that I am."
I asked a participant recently, "are you a Sagittarius?" He said yes and was surprised. I continued, "I thought so... I don't really believe in all that, but it seems more mystical and impressive than saying you were born on December 11th." A decade ago I wouldn't have felt comfortable telling someone their Zodiac sign even while delivering a joke. I didn't want to confuse people. I wanted to avoid doing anything that might foster false beliefs. I have found a gentle way to disclaim certain things, but I have also relaxed, I think. I take medicine for OCD now, and I worry and obsess much less. I am thankful to God for that.
The secret of deception is in making the truth seem ridiculous.
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Russo Inner circle So.California / Centl.Florida / retired Florida 1213 Posts
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For several months been asking - Is there an FCM in Central Florida ??- NO ANSWER - don't wish to be judging -Christian Fellowship ? I'm 85, in Magic/Vent since 10, a welfare Child to help Mom and Sis. Then my own Family. Grandfather was a Methodist Pastor. - Housebound, would like to converse with fellow Christians. See 'profile ?' Ralph ROUSSEAU
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Donald Dunphy Inner circle Victoria, BC, Canada 7583 Posts
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On Nov 27, 2022, Russo wrote: Just an observation. There is a very active FCM Facebook group (and, they also seem to do regular Zoom / online gatherings). That is way more active than the FCM members on the Magic Café. You'll likely get a response if you were on Facebook, and asked your question in that group. I guess the other alternative is to log into the FCM website members area (again, not a post on the Magic Café), and ask your question there. To summarize, try Facebook or the FCM website for a more active response, and to connect with active participants. - Donald
Donald Dunphy is a Victoria Magician, British Columbia, Canada.
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Russo Inner circle So.California / Centl.Florida / retired Florida 1213 Posts
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Sorry Donald, I don't do Facebook, too much trash.
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Terry Holley Inner circle 1805 Posts
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On Nov 27, 2022, Russo wrote: I hope these links help your search for FCM chapters and fellowship: https://www.fcm.org/live-events/ https://www.fcm.org/local-events/chapters/ Terry
Co-author with illusionist Andre' Kole of "Astrology and Psychic Phenomena."
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Russo Inner circle So.California / Centl.Florida / retired Florida 1213 Posts
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Thank You Terry, Ralph
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jericho New user 26 Posts
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On Jun 23, 2014, stempleton wrote: I think you have to be careful and not try to convince the audience that what you are doing is spiritual or from God. i.e. God told me what you are thinking, or the Holy Spirit is giving me your thoughts. |
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Russo Inner circle So.California / Centl.Florida / retired Florida 1213 Posts
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Reading from "The Living Bible" Paraphrased - read '2 Corinthians 4:1-2 - Is how I open my Program - May Help, the NKJ , NJKV -and others may be confusing
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RNK Inner circle 7744 Posts
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I always tell people it's not about actual mind reading but more about their body language. So basically I contribute being able to figure out what they are thinking with questions and how they answer.
Check out Bafflingbob.com
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EZrhythm Inner circle Only three EZ payments for a PDF of my 1939 Posts
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Isn't that being deceptive though if you are not actually doing such?
I like the reference on the first page- "If I could actually read someone's mind, it might look something like this.
How many magicians does it take to change a lightbulb? Regardless, for magicians darkness is a time for d'lite.
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Jay Jennings Veteran user Scottsdale, AZ 337 Posts
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A Mentalist's Non-Disclaimer Disclaimer for Certain Groups
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Can a human being transmit their thoughts from one person to another? - - - To me that doesn't say you're reading minds, although it doesn't say you're not, so I think it leaves the mystery intact. (And seriously, who's to say that telepathy isn't a natural act we haven't yet discovered how to trigger?)
Mystery arts articles and thoughts: https://ExclusiveMagic.com
Free video crash course for numerology readings: https://LoShuNumerology.com |
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George Hunter Inner circle 2051 Posts
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David:
I attempted, and failed, to send a pm to you, so I am copying it below. Hi DavidI I have enjoyed your fair and articulate reviews. To your question. I have just finished a pretty good draft for a small book, The Public Christian Mentalist. Richard Osterlind told me it is "wonderful!" If you would like to peruse a copy, I'd be glad to send it to you by email attachment. Of course, I would welcome any feedback. Who am I? I am a retired dean and professor from Asbury Seminary. PhD is in Communication Studies from Northwestern. I took up Mentalism when I retied, in 2011. Now at 86, I perform for gatherings in Lexington and central KY. I still writer, and still pump iron. Oh, who might be interested in publishing it? I sent it to Vanishing Inc.; they liked it but it is briefer than what they publish, they already have too many books in their pipeline and(inferred) recovering from the fire is consuming.. May the Good News be yours, George Hunter geogh33@aol.com 859.509.6520 |
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Russo Inner circle So.California / Centl.Florida / retired Florida 1213 Posts
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Does Abbot still publish ? I'm now 87, kinda retired from Parlor Magic - still do a little Vent (see profile) now do a lot of Illustrating / Writing small (8 -15 pages) booklets for neighbors/friends, which helps stress/grief - (can't afford $$ to publish) Daughter gave me this lap top when she visited me. Don't know how to email - except just send and receive Messages - or forward Photos put on line for me. ( may send a couple) Brother
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