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Did anyone Actually purpose such a ridiculous notion?


It's pretty much the far right's motto, isn't it? "Let them wish they could afford cake but they can't because they're not the 'productive class' so let's slash food stamps and keep them from getting insurance or anything else that is, you know, essential for life because I earned this money by having the best last name! Predatory loans? Poppycock! Little entitled b..." Sorry, got a bit too into character there. I like cake.



Why is it the employer's job to provide the cake (let alone the birth control)?
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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Why not just put the birth control in the cake?
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That would be a sure cure for unemployment! Can you imagine the manpower needed for such a thing?

Even collecting and cataloguing would be impossible.


They now have the capability to collect, catalogue, and search using computer technology.
I've posted links many times to all this. It's in the NSA's own documents.


Capability, maybe...but are you actually suggesting that they have recordings of all phone conversations made just in this country?

And, as I sort of suggested earlier, if they do why haven't we been able to find everyone and solve endless cases?

It's kind of interesting, though, that some of the same people (not you, landmark) who regularly say that the government is incompetent and can't do anything right, have no problem believing that they can do this right.

Why didn't we catch the Boston bombers way ahead of time? Somebody obviously didn't know how to search this nearly infinite data base.
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Did anyone Actually purpose such a ridiculous notion?


It's pretty much the far right's motto, isn't it? "Let them wish they could afford cake but they can't because they're not the 'productive class' so let's slash food stamps and keep them from getting insurance or anything else that is, you know, essential for life because I earned this money by having the best last name! Predatory loans? Poppycock! Little entitled b..." Sorry, got a bit too into character there. I like cake.



Why is it the employer's job to provide the cake (let alone the birth control)?


That's easy, because the greedy ****** don't pay people enough to afford their own cake (or private insurance of their choice). Or were you helping me out by providing an illustration of my social Darwinism point?
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Interesting philosophy.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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That the point of going to work is to make a living? I know, it's revolutionary.
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Have you ever employed anyone? I mean full-time or close to it.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

"...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us."
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That would be a sure cure for unemployment! Can you imagine the manpower needed for such a thing?

Even collecting and cataloguing would be impossible.


They now have the capability to collect, catalogue, and search using computer technology.
I've posted links many times to all this. It's in the NSA's own documents.


Capability, maybe...but are you actually suggesting that they have recordings of all phone conversations made just in this country?

I heard some U.S. security expert, I don't recall his name, make this claim on the radio the other day. FWIW:

http://www.cnet.com/news/snowden-nsa-sno......arrants/

"Earlier reports have indicated that the NSA has the ability to record nearly all domestic and international phone calls -- in case an analyst needed to access the recordings in the future."

http://www.wired.com/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/ (this article is a little dated)

"[the NSA] has established listening posts throughout the nation to collect and sift through billions of email messages and phone calls, whether they originate within the country or overseas. It has created a supercomputer of almost unimaginable speed to look for patterns and unscramble codes. Finally, the agency has begun building a place to store all the trillions of words and thoughts and whispers captured in its electronic net."

The main point is, though, that the NSA is said to have the ability to record everything and perhaps does. But it (so it is said) only examines a tiny fraction of it, when certain people involved in the recordings are flagged.
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What Balducci posted is just the tip of the iceberg.

My experience whilst serving on projects as a
prototype engineer for data storage equipment
at facilities was this.

ALL of the data is harvested in the
switching stations at the data centres.

The fibre optic lines run from the switches
to equipment at a secured annex building then
routed back to the outflow lines. Military
and civilian personnel served as security
at these facilities.

The staff at the data centre removes the
collection drives from the server units,
then places them in metal lock boxes which
then go into a secondary secured container.

The data is stored on magnetic tape drives.
This medium is still the most cost efficient.

A certain company comes in once a week sometimes
more and assumes possession of the storage container
for transport to a secured facility where the data
is processed through equipment listening for key
words and phrases and patterns.

The above data were phone conversations, texts,
web searches, emails, etc...

When an email gets deleted it only gets removed
from the available folder. It is rewritten in
another folder which is not available to the user.

These folders are stored on magnetic tape drives which
are collected on a daily basis and sent to storage
at a data storage companies vault. Iron Mountain
handled much of this duty at various projects I
was a part of.

There used to be a intelligence loophole whereby a
party could type any message then save it as a draft
in a folder, having never sent it.

A user in another part of the worlde had the email
account password and could readily access any message
without it being sent over traveling on the net.

Such is no longer the case, even drafts are stored
for future review if deemed necessary.

No, the conversations were not listened to in real
time, but there was a means to do so and sometimes
did. Software on Equipment 'Runs the numbers' if
will, then sends a status report to a human resource.

I glossed over the particulars in the above post
for the most part and my agreements with those
parties have since expired.
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With all of this high tech stuff you would think we could find Lois Lerner's Emails.
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Acesover,

Listening posts and remote data switches.

Many of the repeater and listening posts
are located on rural homestead property.
They are protected by roving patrols and
the wildlife present make the sites seem
anything but extraordinary to the locals.

The vault doors can only be opened at these
remote facilities via satellite signal by
a project manager.

A service tech stands on watch outside of the
underground facility in case of an accident or
premature lock. Not all of the sites are
underground.

When work is performed at these sites, one is
given a certain window of time that is pre-determined.

The hatch(door) is locked when time expires and can
only be unlocked when the next satellite comes around.

I can assure you that although certain
parties claim to have lost or erased
emails, they exist! I will bet my life
on it.

The parties that possess the data do not
have an incentive at this time, to reveal
the data unless informed otherwise.

If push comes to shove and a particular
party has enough clout, the data can be
retrieved and all parties know this.

Negotiations are playing out as we speak.
I have no doubt!
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Why didn't we catch the Boston bombers way ahead of time? Somebody obviously didn't know how to search this nearly infinite data base.

I've answered this too, several times. Because capturing "terrorists" is not the main purpose of the database. (BTW we don't know that they *didn't* do database searches.) The FBI had plenty of info about the Boston Boys already way before the bombings--to the point that there is not unreasonable speculation that they were possibly FBI informants. (NOT saying the FBI set this up--but the FBI knew beforehand about their drug dealing and their connections to violent Russian Muslim groups. They either dropped the ball, or were asked to do so.)
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Could the bomb drill which occurred on the day of the marathon
be an indirect way to respond to a threat which was based on
incomplete evidence?
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Why didn't we catch the Boston bombers way ahead of time? Somebody obviously didn't know how to search this nearly infinite data base.

I've answered this too, several times. Because capturing "terrorists" is not the main purpose of the database. (BTW we don't know that they *didn't* do database searches.) The FBI had plenty of info about the Boston Boys already way before the bombings--to the point that there is not unreasonable speculation that they were possibly FBI informants. (NOT saying the FBI set this up--but the FBI knew beforehand about their drug dealing and their connections to violent Russian Muslim groups. They either dropped the ball, or were asked to do so.)


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Are you denying that the FBI had had contact with the brothers before the bombing? Because even the FBI doesn't deny that. They blew it.
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I'll tell you about the weather machine Daniel.
It is being mothballed as we speak.
Shut Down Project.
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It all belongs to god anyway. You can't steal it, when you go, then you are going to have leave everything here. First kill all the lawyers.
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Have you ever employed anyone? I mean full-time or close to it.



Yes, but that is irrelevant to my concern.
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Admittedly, I'm a bit sensitive on the insurance topic. I see a few people shouting loudly about maybe having to pay higher taxes and I'm over here wondering if I'll get to see my kids grow up. That's not an exaggeration, if I hadn't gotten ACA compliant healthcare this year I would almost certainly be dead. Lives > Money. Say what you want about me but at least I've been consistent in that philosophy.
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It's relevant to your perspective, though. I was just curious.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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