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Galileo Elite user Somerville MA 431 Posts |
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On Jul 4, 2014, ColinPestro wrote: Did you Just say the spider pen was TOO good? I would highly disagree with that statement and from what I've seen the suryas device is a good reliable ITR system |
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1KJ Inner circle Warning: We will run out of new tricks in 4385 Posts |
I received mine not too long ago. I don't have that big of a problem with breaking IT since I started using Mark Mason's tip he shared on Penguin Live. That tip doesn't apply to this device, but Mark's concept does apply. I have used it a fair bit and it hasn't broken.
Personally, having a knot in the middle is not an issue either. The knot is going to be generally concealed by the fingers. Also, I think that if people are looking that closely for a thread, then perhaps the magic isn't subtle enough. I personally use IT very sparingly. By the time they see the effect, it is over and we are on to other things. IMO, levitation is so strong, that if you spend too much time doing it, it loses it magic. It becomes a puzzle to be solved. Once it gets to puzzle status, it doesn't matter whether they see the thread or not. I tend to use levitation as a part of something else, something very powerful. I let them see the levitation, but I "don't see it". By downplaying that piece of the magic, it strengthens the whole thing. For example, if you do a matrix routine and use IT to cause a coin to move on its own, it makes the whole routine stronger. KJ |
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Chessmann Inner circle 4242 Posts |
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On Aug 25, 2014, 1KJ wrote: Yes. That thought didn't come to me until later. Good point.
My ex-cat was named "Muffin". "Vomit" would be a better name for her. AKA "The Evil Ball of Fur".
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mixman Loyal user Northern Colorado 294 Posts |
I just cannot use IT. I love the effects, but once it breaks, I might as well throw it away. I simply do not have the eyes or the dexterity to do the repairs. After trying half a dozen times with different devices, using magnifying glasses and high powered lamps, I realized that I was just wasting my money.
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PaulBanda New user 21 Posts |
The Vectra Refills are available at this link, James is shipping out all orders via Express Mail with Tracking, plenting of Vectra Refills are available now, Steve had a bit of a back log with Christmas, Vectra certainly addresses any breakage issues that beginners may have.
Here is the link to order the Vectra Refills.. Also the reason the repair details on the boss reel are not on the DVD is they are alreayd at James New Web-site InvisibleThreadMagic.com/members password = invisible scroll down to Boss Repair info. Penquin has also received a few great reveiws as well. James has 400 units in stock and available, but one of the Primary Distributors has had trouble paying their bills sadly. jamie is shipping out via Express Mail Service with Tracking, all orders go out on Tuesadays and Thursdays weekly. http://invisiblethreadmagic.com/product/......-device/ If you want to order the reel stock with Vectra it is available here: http://invisiblethreadmagic.com/product/......le-here/ James said he is including a Free Boss ITR with every order direct to help offset shipping costs. Offer good through Christmas 2014 |
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Mark8infiniti Special user 612 Posts |
This device is terrible terrible terrible. An absolute atrocious waste of money.
When are we able to vote for THE WORST PRODUCT of 2014? Because this device will be right up there.... USELESS.
iNFiNiTi | The Red Pill Magician | SHOCK NOT IMPRESS
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mixman Loyal user Northern Colorado 294 Posts |
Paul, Are there any plans to market the device with vectra already installed?
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Chessmann Inner circle 4242 Posts |
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On Dec 2, 2014, magicmarkworldwide2 wrote: Hmmm, enjoying mine very much - really like it. What problem(s) are you experiencing?
My ex-cat was named "Muffin". "Vomit" would be a better name for her. AKA "The Evil Ball of Fur".
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PaulBanda New user 21 Posts |
Yes,
You can buy it with Vectra at this link here... Vectra is very expensive so James did not load it stock with Vectra, most are fine with Kevlar. http://invisiblethreadmagic.com/product/......le-here/ With Kevlar just go here and get the bonus specials etc.. http://Suryasdevice.com It is currently only available direct from the links above, it ships via EMS speed post with tracking only! Here are a few reviews from Penguins site... THIS IS THE NEXT EVOLUTION IN ITRS!!! Report this review Verified buyer Pro Privacy ON (login to see reviewer names) on September 18th, 2014 Hi guys! Some of you might remember me as the guy that gives a super, in-depth, detailed review of my experiences with the products that I have purchased from here or another site. Usually, I'd like to take a few months to a year or more, before I review a product, but recently, I've purchased WAY too many products to give every product on here a review (3-4 years of “magical” purchases throws a guy like me, back on reviews; thus I don't write a review as quickly as I used to). That having been said, I bought Surya's Device on September 9th, 2014 and am currently writing my review on September 18th, 2014. The reason why I'm judging Surya's Device so quickly (not a year, not a few months, not even a few weeks!!!) would be due to the fact that THIS DEVICE IS A WORKER!!!!! (I'll elaborate more on this to help you make a more informed decision, later on in this review). Having been fortunate enough with my income, I own just about every ITR that there is out there (James George's first/Original ITR, Original Micro ITR, New Micro ITR, Kevlar Boss Reel (I have half a dozen of these), Alpha reel, Titan ITR, Webspinner, Thread Bullet (I have a dozen of these lol) Kevlar Pen, The Locking ITR, Spider Pen, Spider Pen Pro, Deck TR and now this! Whew.. What a long list). If you're like me and have the extra cash floating around to spend, then do what I did and buy them all! That way, you could adapt to every situation that's out there! However, if your budget is limited, or you think that I'm overly insane with all my purchases, then I have here, some very helpful information that will help you make a more informed decision for which ITR device is right for you! Traditional ITRS require an external anchor point and contain a restricted walking distance. There are hook-ups to get around this restriction, but I only know of a few that are practical enough for the everyday environment. Unless you're very knowledgeable with ITRS and could come up with several routines utilizing your ITR, then you're restricted to certain environments such as a stage, for example. don't get me wrong, I've seen various adept performers performing routines in walk-around situations and even bar type venues using either an external anchor point or a body hook-up. However, I've seen more external hook-ups used with a traditional ITR (not bad if you're in the correct performing environment with ample space) than a traditional body hook-up with an ITR (I know a TON of body hook-ups with traditional ITRS, but none of them are as versatile as Surya's Device). Hook-ups such as the ones taught on Invisible, Fearson's adapted ITR hook-up, Defiance, Centrifugal, and even an effect that I still use and rely on until this day, Oblivion, DO NOT EVEN COME CLOSE TO SURYA'S DEVICE AND IT'S VERSATILITY!!! All of the DVD'S that I have listed above, come with workable material, BUT some of those DVD'S have only one or two great eye-popping effects on them; some only have one, followed by a ton of other fill in effects and some have all eye-popping effects, but sadly enough, none of them are as practical as Surya's Device (what I mean by that, is they either contain a massive setup, require a certain environment where people won't get in the way of your performance, OR you're super close and ready to perform a close-up miracle for your spectator(s), but you have this HUGE uncomfortable move that you'll have to pull off to get into the effect and you have to do those moves WHILE your audience is watching you). With Surya's Device, not only do you NOT have to carry around a wax ball, but you have NO EXTERNAL ANCHOR POINT AND THE BODY HOOK-UP NEVER, EVER, EVER, GETS IN YOUR WAY!!! There are NO UNCOMFORTABLE moves to get in and out of, NO CERTAIN ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE PEOPLE GOT IN YOUR WAY OF PERFORMING, NO MASSIVE/TRICKY SETUPS, AND ALL ROUTINES ARE MINDBLOWINGLY PRACTICAL TO THE POINT WHERE YOU COULD PERFORM WITH BORROWED OBJECTS AND END ABSOLUTELY CLEAN!!!! The best part is, like I had mentioned earlier on, is that there's NO WAX TO WORRY ABOUT and NO DISTANCE RESTRICTIONS since an external anchor-point is NOT being used. So is this Evolutionary??? Comparing Surya's Device to the Spider Pen, Spider Pen Pro, and the Deck TR, I'd say that it depends on an individual's perspective, but for the most part (and in my opinion) it would be evolutionary due to the fact that you could perform impromptu effects on the fly WITH NO SETUP; that ALL ROUTINES SEEN IN THE DEMO VIDEO ARE PRACTICAL, USABLE, WORK IN EVERY PERFORMANCE CONDITION FOR THE WORKING PERFORMER, AS WELL AS THE ADDITION OF NOT HAVING TO RELY ON A BATTERY (again, don't get me wrong, my S.P.P. is still on the same battery it was on alittle over a year ago and works perfectly fine, but you never know)!! The S.P., S.P.P., and Deck TR, are evolutionary in the sense that they are powered by a motor (with the addition that Deck TR could be programmed to assist in animations, opening doors to a ton of new applications) allowing the performer to walk EXTREMELY SUPER DUPER FARAWAY FROM A FLOATING OBJECT (virtually, you have NO distance restrictions at all) making the S.P., S.P.P., as well as Deck TR, evolutionary compared to that of a traditional ITR that carries with it, a distance restriction. Even with the unmentioned aspects of the Deck TR (that I will not get into), Surya's Device is by far, THE MOST PRACTICAL DEVICE THAT I'VE EVER USED!!! I'LL BE USING ALL THE ROUTINES TAUGHT ON THE DVD WHICH I ALMOST NEVER DO!!! I WOULD HAVE GLADLY PAID DOUBLE THE PRICE FOR THIS AND THE INCLUDED ROUTINES!!! HELL, THE TWO RUBBER BAND EFFECTS TAUGHT ON THIS DVD ARE WELL WORTH THE PRICE OF THE DVD ALONE! IF THIS WERE A STAND-ALONE DVD WITH ONLY THOSE TWO EFFECTS ON IT WITH NO ITR OR OTHER ROUTINES, I'D STILL BUY IT!!! THIS IS MOST DEFINITELY WORTH YOUR CONSIDERATION!!! MOST SUPER HIGHLY RECOMMENDED FOR THE WORKING PERFORMER THAT WOULD LIKE TO PERFORM CLEAN, PRACTICAL, EASY-TO-DO, MIRACLES (WITHOUT UNCOMFORTABLE MOVES), IN ANY ENVIRONMENT!!!! XD (P.S: I've performed the two rubber band effects taught on this DVD for a few people and man... I've yet to have anybody not swear and say “give me that, let me see that!” Only laugh and curse out-loud when they can't reconstruct the impossible. Btw, YES, Linking the rubber bands IS THAT CLEAN!!! You link them, then unlink them, and you IMMEDIATELY HAND OUT THE RUBBER BANDS!!! NO QUESTIONS, NO DISTRACTIONS, NO DITCHES OF ANY SORT, AND NO FALSE MOVES!!! IT'S A MIRACLE!!! AN EVOLUTION INDEED!!!). ***TO SURYA AND JAMES GEORGE, IF YOU GUYS ARE READING THIS, I WOULDN'T MIND AT ALL IF YOU GUYS WERE TO POST MY REVIEW ON YOUR PRODUCT/WEBSITE AS I TRULY BELIEVE IN IT!!! I REALLY COULD USE THIS EVERYWHERE!!!!! XD*** Did this review help you? Do you want to respond to this review? 1 of 1 magicians found the following review helpful: Finally! Report this review Verified buyer Pro Privacy ON (login to see reviewer names) on September 17th, 2014 This is the device that I have been waiting for. I have been using my own methods to accomplish similar effects but it just wasn't as smooth. I am glad that this was made. Other "game changers" that have come out overror the past two years don't come close. |
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MRNEAL New user 3 Posts |
I own one of these and love it. Unfortunately, I am having difficulty acquiring end cap and foam circle replacements. (Yes, I was able to lose a pair off one end.) I do not feel confident with a jury rigged solution. I just want to buy a few extra pieces so I can get back to using the device and have a few replacements for future stupidity. If any one knows how to access a replacement source, please help.
Thanks, Neal Daugherty aka Knox Zimmerman |
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FasciN8 New user 35 Posts |
Interest is peaked. I love levitations! Just ordered a SPP and am looking into a newer system called TK W Reel system. I love floating thinga and want to create a bubble routine that evolves into floating orbs multiplying balls and floating zombie balls of sorts then after the huge ball sets down the table floats! Anywho, anyone have the TK W Utility?
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StarManager Inner circle Maui, Hawaii 1012 Posts |
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On Nov 5, 2018, FasciN8 wrote: Hi - Curious what you think of the TK W Reel System. I see you bought it 2 months ago. What is different, good, better and bad about it? Any thoughts would be appreciated!!!!
"I'm a professional magician and once in a while I even work." Jonathan Todd Excelsior (StarManager)
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