On 2005-03-06 11:03, taliesin wrote:

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On 2005-01-23 18:41, bishthemagish wrote:
I vote that this is the worst thread as of yet that I have read in the Café... It reads and reviews like the American Bandstand used to do in the segment "Rate a Record"...

My point - magicians today are very lucky to be able to get a DVD with magic ideas on it.

These DVDs aren't released out of some philanthropic gesture to the magic community. These are released to make money!...from us! You could argue that 'ordinary' magicians are the people best qualified to judge products and are most likely to give an unbiased opinion. Reviewers in magic magazines are liable to modify their comments based on their own relationships with production companies and friendships (or otherwise) with the individuals whose product they're reviewing.

'Magician's helping magicians' is the tag-line of the Café. In the case of this thread - magicians helping magicians to avoid lousy products.

On 2005-03-08 11:37, Winks wrote:
I have some DVDs that I do not care for the magic. No biggie.

On 2005-03-09 08:08, JackDaniel wrote:

Well, the worst DVD's in the world has to be everything from David Williamson, Daryl and Richard Osterlind.

Jack.

On 2005-03-09 10:30, Winks wrote:
Ahhhhh, another idiot heard from. OK, who opened the door for the inmates?

On 2005-02-27 08:26, tmoca wrote:

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On 2004-01-19 15:08, iamslow wrote:
The magic of David Eldridge from Brad Burt... Pure garbage...

Agree

On 2005-03-09 10:43, JackDaniel wrote:

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On 2005-03-09 10:30, Winks wrote:
Ahhhhh, another idiot heard from. OK, who opened the door for the inmates?

He He, thanks. I was just curious about how long time it would take before I got bashed.

Osterlind, Daryl and Williamson are actually the BEST I own, they are wonderful performers who I respect tremendously.

Mr. Osterlind, sorry for the bad joke (been feeling silly all day)
I'm off to bed.



Jack.

On 2004-01-19 15:08, iamslow wrote:
The magic of David Eldridge from Brad Burt... Pure garbage...

On 2005-03-03 16:48, pikacrd wrote:
Wow 41 pages and going although it would have been much shorter if all of the talk about CTG had been removed. I wanted to point out to bishthemagish that he should be thankful that nobody pointed out his DVD as several Blogs around the internet have dedicated forums to bashing the heck out of his work. I personally thought that he offered some good work and interesting touches on some classic stuff but that is just one man’s opinion. And as far as if a DVD is good or not it is all subjective to the person reviewing the DVD. As long as the person just does not say “so and so’s DVD Sucked” with out an explanation, all comments are fair game. So his point about magicians today being lucky to be able to get a DVD with magic ideas on it and how just like books some stuff is good and some stuff is not; I have to ask what the hell does luck have to do with it? I paid my hard earned money that to buy the DVD that someone else put out to sell. This is more about economics than luck, look the good ole days when magic was handed down from teacher to student only after the student had shown a level of dedication that the “Master” had approved of are all but over, the all mighty dollar has stepped into the picture and replaced the teacher and dedication. If this is not the case than why does he sell the material on his DVD instead of giving it away to a worthy student keeping it a secret from the rest of us? As a final note regarding Mr. Bishop his last sentence regarding the time that he spent reading this thread and how it would have been better spent reading one of the classics of magic, know one asked you to read it you wanted to and you did, if you felt that it was a waist of time why did you bother to spend even more time posting.

Sorry about that but I had to get it off my chest I hate the old man young kid mentality that takes place in the minds of some who do not think that everyone deserves the right to express there opinions and when they try to back it up by saying “when I was young and coming up we did not have DVD’s, you have it so easy now a days” No joke DVD’s and Videos are still fairly new in the grand scheme of things within the magic history time line. When you were a kid the magic was marketed differently and there were no vehicles for the spread of information like there are today. It is called progress if we stayed the same and never adapted to change the art form would get old wither up and die. Take a look at the history books and you will see that magic has evolved with the times.

Well off to the point of the Thread Bad DVD’s (or what I see as some of the worst that I have ever purchased)

Born to perform: I have reviewed it several times for different people bottom line is that the magic contained did not do it for me, and I did not like it.

Shock FX: Wow was this bad, I actually like some of the stuff that Andrew puts out. I as well have enjoyed listening to his Monday night internet radio show and will say that the bowling ball from paper bag is not bad and the thinking behind it is good but other than that it was a waist of money for me. The fact that I do like the bowling ball effect does not justify the cost of the tape for me and I actually think that Andrew could have made a much better DVD than this. I truly was surprised at how poor this project really is.

Gary Darwin: 5 disk set I think that it was called something like the encyclopedia of magic or something like that. Very poor quality you could actually here Tony Hassini in the background talking. 90% of the work was prop driven and involved props that are either not being produced any longer or are very hard to find.