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ashah
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I've heard something about snap double lifts and Derek Dingle double lifts. Can someone tell me what those are or look like? The one I'm familiar with is the "classic" one where you pull the double out to the side and turn it over like a book.
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I can help with the Larry Jenning's Snap Double...
Daryl teaches it in his Encyclopedia of Card Sleights
DVD Volume 5 and, IIRC, also on his Ambitious Card DVD.
Great resources to learn this 'd'!

I am sure someone here will follow up with a reference
to Derek Dingle's, I am sorry but I can't cite one.
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Derek Dingle's double lift can be found - surprisingly enough - in the Complete Works of Derek Dingle by Kaufman at page 6. There is no get ready and the cards are essentially pivotted off the inner right corner, buckled and snapped off the thumb
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If you get the complete works of Derek Dingle, you should also spend some time learning the Hofzinser BoTop Change .... it is an incredible switch with some amazing applications.

Also, learn the last trick in that book (can't remember the name), it is a killer, and is very easy to do.
ashah
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Thanks guys. There's no way I'll be able to get a copy of the Derek Dingle book, but I'll keep that in mind if I come across it in the future.
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There are *many* variations on the double lift. The best idea is probably to go to one of the card guys at your local circle and ask him to show you.
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I love the snap double and use it more than most other versions, but the key to any DL is that YOU are comfortable with it and can perform it naturally. Get some resources and practice.

Daryl's Encyclopedia of Card Sleights (5) is quite good but if you want an in-depth treatment of the DL alone, check out Double Take by Greg Wilson.
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Learn the Push Off DL.
It is the best in simplicity.
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Really? I'm still battling with this after months.

The Snap Double I had working after a few minutes—reliably. The Push Off DL is probably conceptually the best but, I feel, a lot harder to attain than alternatives.

I recommend the Snap Double. The reference has been supplied in previous posts. It is easy to execute and alignment is very good without effort.
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In addition to my previous recommendation above, may I also suggest that you learn more than one technique. It is such a commonly used technique that it is valuable to be able to change between 2-3 so to not raise suspicion. But of course, techniques without application are pointless.
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I don't know where this falls in the "push off double" universe, but I do Vernon's Push off. This one is simple, but does take some time to get it just right. You can find it in some of Vernon's work and on Wilson's Double Take.
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As I'm quite new to card magic, I have been messing around with double lifts and find the Vernon's Push off to be the best for me at this time. I tried the same version that that Blaine fellow uses and I just don't like it. I have also been playing around with the Jenning's Snap Double and I'm finding it hard to get the thumb count right.
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I don't know where this falls in the "push off double" universe, but I do Vernon's Push off. This one is simple, but does take some time to get it just right. You can find it in some of Vernon's work and on Wilson's Double Take.
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In answer to the original question the derek dingle double looks like the way david blaine does it.I think the best version is probably dai vernons version.andy
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Look at yourself when dealing/taking a single card. Try to find a DL that looks the same. I have NEVER seen s.o. taking the top card of a deck in a "snap-double" kind-of-move.
I would go with the push-off double. As stated, it is NOT an easy move. But you can make it A LOT simpler by getting ready with a break.
J.
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I don't like snap double lift that much because I always have to find a misdirection to cover the count. So push-off is my favorite. It took a while to get it down. But it's worth it.
ashah
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Hi everyone,

I posted the original message. I did learn the snap double lift from Daryl's ambitious card video. However, I do feel that the Dai Vernon DL looks the most natural, and that's the one I use.
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If you´re beginning, Daryl will be a GREAT investment since you´ll have a LOT of material. You can make variations on the DLs with the rest of the material becuase you´ll begin to see patterns along the way, and your perception about a single move will change once you´ve mastered many.
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Nobody has mentioned Bill Malone's snap double lift; He doesn't teach it, but you can see him demonstrate the technique in one of his "On the Loose" DVDs; Of all the DLs that I've ever tried to perfect, I enjoy this the most and can do it with the most confidence 99.9% of the time;
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I've never seen the snap double lift. Is there a demo video somewhere?
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