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How can I order the pro version?
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I can't find it in the itunes store
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Direct from Myke himself, only.
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Robvs iunlockyourmind has never been able to unlock 100% of phones out of the box nor will it ever be able to. It could never unlock 6 digit pass code or passwords (both of which predate the app). It has never been able to unlock android phones that use a password or gesture. The effect can be performed in exactly the same way as it could the day I bought it. Sure 6 digit pins are gradually becoming more popular and represent around 1% of iPhones I see compared to around 0.1% this time last year. In around the last 100 performances I've seen 1 6 digit pin. I still see more people with android phones than I see iPhones with 6 digit pins. The problem you are going to have when 6 digit pins become common enough to require an update is do you have the app set for 6 digit pins, passwords or 4 digit pins. If set for 6 digit pins it's going to get clunky working with a 4 digit pin. Currently I can get more mileage out of it set to 4 digits than I can out of 6 so even if full support for 6 digit pins was added tomorrow I would still be a long way from flipping the switch.

There is no universal unlock every phone app, never was, probably never will be. Just as magic sms does not support every single colour a spectator could choose or a parapad can't make every piece of handwriting legible and a QB2 can't bend every coin. Every single tool has its limitations. You work within the limitations and yes skill matters if you want to truly call yourself a magician. If you wish to buy tricks and expect them to do 100% of the work for you in 100% of situations then you are going to spend a lot of time disappointed. Apps and gimmicks and even sleights are merely tools, it's the performer that makes the magic and he does that at least in part by understanding the strengths, weaknesses and limitations of every tool at his disposure and using the right tool for the right situation.

If you want an app that will do 100% of the work for you in 100% of situations, well this app isn't it, and I'm not convinced such an app will ever exist. This app allows a spectator to unlock your phone in a very clean manner whilst harvesting additional info, in many cases that info will be their phone pass code, their date of birth too and possibly their pin code. It doesn't support every type of passcode on every type of phone any more than it can compensate for a spectator entering a made up date of birth or passcode instead of their real code but then it never claimed to.

This thread is for the pro version and every pro knows that spectators do not always play fair. If you rely solely on this or any app it's not a case of if you will get burned but a case of when. More than once I have had to rely on an alternative method because when I tested the pin they input (prior to unlocking their phone) it did not unlock. To say that Iunlockyourmind can't unlock phones out of the box is a complete fallacy, as of now it will unlock the majority of iPhones out of the box it just will not unlock 100%. However the actual core effect is that the spectator unlocks your phone and that works 100%. Unlocking the spectators iPhone with the info harvested is only one of the things that you can do with the info harvested and this includes six digit pins. Try the first 4 digits of your code, how about the last 4. Wow guess what, I can now unlock your 6 digit pin, out of the box, it's not rocket science.

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The beauty was clean and direct. Now it's roundabout.
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The only thing that has changed is that you will come across 6 digit pins slightly more often than before, I performed this around 15 times today at a gig, not a single 6 digit pin, there were 2 android galaxy's that I couldn't unlock, but it was always that way. When 6 digit pins become common I will start worrying. I suspect by the time that happens the app will be updated. Looking at both the app store group and the pro group there is a post from someone that came across a 6 digit pin a long time ago (long before ios 9 and the 6s), and a more recent one where someone came across a password. So it seems that you are harping on about a problem that doesn't really exist yet. Sure one day it will be a problem but we are not there yet.

A whole bunch of my stuff does not work on blind people, I have come across more blind people since ios 9 was released than I have 6 digit pins. Apparently due to the massive increase in diabetis blindness is on the increase. Should I now start a campaign against effects that can't be performed out of the box for the blind without having to adapt, or should I wait until it genuinely becomes a problem? Currently there are more than enough sighted people for me to perform my favorite effects, just as there are more than enough people with 4 digit pins. On those rare occasions that I come accross either a blind person or a 6 digit pin or an android or windows phone I simply adapt.

I can happily perform iunlock without feeling the need to unlock the spectators phone, them unlocking my phone plays very strong. Sometimes I even prefer to unlock their phone first, then have them unlock mine. I still come away with their birthday and bank pin which I may use months later. Tonight I got a bookers birthday and bank pin, I don't intend to use them until the booking in June, the pin I may have to play carefully but his birthday definitely isn't changing,

iunlocks strength is as a tool for harvesting info during the effect of the spectator unlocking your phone. More often than not that info will include their 4 digit pass code, On those rare occasions when someone has a 6 digit pin or an android then you can perform it on someone else in the group, use one of many straight forward methods of getting 6 digits, let them unlock your phone and don't unlock theirs, or simply perform a different effect.
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This analogy is in poor taste.
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How is it in poor taste? He has simply stated a fact....... nothing derogatory was written or implied.
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Not in poor taste at all, my father was completely blind, through multiple sclerosis rather than diabetes and incidentally he was also the best magician I have ever seen and one of the most capable men I have ever met. I am a big supporter of the guide dogs for the blind charity. It is a fact that blindness is on the increase. In all my years as a full time pro I never encountered a blind person when performing. In the last 6 months as a semi pro I have encountered 4 and fortunately I have effects such as Your intuition, Guessing to know you, and PA's etc that can be performed for the blind. It doesn't matter what the effect is, or how much it costs, there will be times that effect is not suitable for the situation. Sometimes you can adapt the effect to fit the situation and other times you simply perform a different effect.

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You've drawn a comparison between those with a disability and something as trivial as the pin code of an iphone. That's in poor taste. Throwing money at an organization doesn't make you any less offensive. The disabled are not simply an inconvenience you need to work around when performing magic. Despicable, really.
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Having grown up with a blind man who bought me and my two brothers up single handedly I think I am better placed than you to determine whether my comments were offensive. I never claimed they were an inconvenience merely that the condition is on the rise and many of the effects we perform are not suitable for someone that is unable to see. That is no more than a simple fact. However if you choose to be offended then I'm truly grateful. My father would have knocked you spark out for calling him disabled, he was probably more "abled" than many sighted people. many blind people would consider being called disabled far more offensive than stating the irrefutable fact that many magic tricks are not suitable to perform on blind people.

Far from an inconvenience it is an opportunity to engage with that person, however not using an effect that involves the use of the visual medium. Certain effects are also not suitable to perform on non native speakers of English, is that also offensive to those not born in an English speaking country? They are people too and not merely an inconvenience you need to work around but performing an English language progressive anagram on someone who only speaks Arabic would still be as futile as your petty campaign against this effect. However you at least acknowledge that it's trivial so that is progress, rather than throwing stones at me you should ask yourself why around 80% of your posts in the last 30 days are harping on about such a trivial issue across several threads in multiple sections of this forum. Not only is it currently a non issue but it's a dead horse that far too much of your energy has been spent flogging.

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On Dec 7, 2015, Mark_Chandaue wrote:
I think I am better placed than you to determine whether my comments were offensive.



No. You're not.
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Will there be an update for iOS 9? So you can switch between 4 and 6 numbers? I had already 5 users with a 6 digit code.

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So far, the most realistic answer is NO, that there will not be an update.
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I would like to say this is the best mentalism app out there but it isn't really an app at all or it doesn't come accoss that way to any spectator , the effect combined with the pebble watch is simply brilliant , when I first purchased the pro version a few years ago I was on the fence about getting this as at the time the price seemed high and wasn't sure it would be that fooling ,how wrong was I this is probably the best effect I have purchased in mentalism , it always gets fantastic reactions and top to it off myke is always there if you have any queries , it has evolved since day one which myke promised it would , I wouldn't be without it .,

If your on the fence get the pro version , honestly you won't be disappointed


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On Dec 7, 2015, Mark_Chandaue wrote:
I think I am better placed than you to determine whether my comments were offensive.



No. You're not.

Yes I am
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Last time I looked it wasn't illegal to offend someone
(and boy do some people look out for every opportunity to be offended)

Even when no offence was intended ( as Mark has explained) some people will not be happy until they manufacture something to hang their whining on.

So you're offended, he's offended, she's offended, we're all offended....

SO WHAT?

This post probably offends as well
SO WHAT?


steve
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How can I update to pro version.I try to pm Mkye but he didn't reply me :-(
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How can I update to pro version.I try to pm Mkye but he didn't reply me :-(


Contact Myke on facebook, that's your best bet
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Is the regular version still available please ?
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