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On Aug 7, 2014, Mike.Hankins wrote:
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On Aug 7, 2014, saysold1 wrote:
Really?

I use Extreme Burn 2.0 all the time but from an audience perspective I would think that thsi could be quite magical visually.


To break it down further, I feel like with Extremem Burn 2.0, there are a few magical things happening, depending on who the spectator is. For some, the effect is a CHANGE - the bills REALLY do change, somehow. For some others (non-believers), they may see Extreme 2.0 as five one-dollar bills vanishing, and five $100 bills being produced. They might not "believe" the bills changed, but they can perhaps still be impressed at your ability to ring out the singles and ring in the hundreds.

With Rainmaker, I feel like you are taking a "few" of one type of bill, and then causing that number to increase a bit. It's easier for a spectator to deduce that "he was hiding the extras" - because that's the only effect that happened...some "extra" bills were produced.

Again, with EB 2.0 for example, it's harder for a spectator to go back in their minds and say "oh, he was just hiding the 100's" - because there is ALSO the one-dollar bills to be accounted for, which are apparently now gone. It complicates the back-tracking process that, whether we admit it or not, a LOT of spectators go through.

Hope that make's some sense.


Thought I would chime in here...

Karl just did a lecture here with us AT THE TABLE, and he performed Heiny 500 and then ended with this.

He does not use this as a stand-alone routine that I know of. He performed a show for the sales team here and again, started with Heiny 500 and ended with this. Everyone's mouths were wide open. Maybe obvious to magicians, but what they saw totally fried them!


Yes, I definitely think it works MUCH better as a followup to a denomination change.
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Could I use paper money? Thinking strips of paper with fish...showing how Jesus multiplied fishes and loaves for gospel presentation
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Thanks for your thoughts Danny!

Initially the arts & crafts looks pretty simple.
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The method seem like some Extreme Burn method that is used there . However , this looks really great to me . But carrying a huge chunk of cash fears me a bit .
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If I were to do this, it'll be like how Karl did, a follow up from EB after the change.

I don't suppose this will look good with anythig less than 15 bills, in other words, that's a lot of money to carry around for a magic trick. But still, I love the effect!
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If I were to do this, it'll be like how Karl did, a follow up from EB after the change.

I don't suppose this will look good with anythig less than 15 bills, in other words, that's a lot of money to carry around for a magic trick. But still, I love the effect!


Actually I tried spreading some notes just now . I found that around 20 notes works the best . It will create a kind of big fan with money . Although it looks cool by pushing the notes off your hand after the reappearance , obviously I will not do it in real world . Yes it looks cool , but I can imagine some random guy come rushing in and snatching my money ...
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Hey James, Yes this can be performed with any denomination including Plastic Money. The download/DVD includes explanation with Plastic Money.
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Got this the other day. I think the initial arts & crafts set-up is easy to do and the actual routine is also easy. All in all- happy with my purchase and will use this. Karl does a fine job explaining everything. I feel if you like what you see on the demo then you will like Rain Maker.....


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Also, to clarify some of the previous comments, Rainmaker uses a modified construction and handling to the original Easy Money Gimmick (Invented by Pat Page which pre-dates my Heiny 500 and Richard Sander's Extreme Burn). Yes, it can be done with any currency (including plastic) or denomination so it doesn't necessarily require a big investment. There is no need for the extra something that Extreme Burn added to the Easy Money Gimmick and the handling of the change to a large amount of bills is different than any of the variations of Easy Money (Hundy 500, Heiny 500, Slow Burn, Extreme Burn, Prophet etc.).
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On Aug 7, 2014, saysold1 wrote:
Really?

I use Extreme Burn 2.0 all the time but from an audience perspective I would think that thsi could be quite magical visually.


To break it down further, I feel like with Extremem Burn 2.0, there are a few magical things happening, depending on who the spectator is. For some, the effect is a CHANGE - the bills REALLY do change, somehow. For some others (non-believers), they may see Extreme 2.0 as five one-dollar bills vanishing, and five $100 bills being produced. They might not "believe" the bills changed, but they can perhaps still be impressed at your ability to ring out the singles and ring in the hundreds.

With Rainmaker, I feel like you are taking a "few" of one type of bill, and then causing that number to increase a bit. It's easier for a spectator to deduce that "he was hiding the extras" - because that's the only effect that happened...some "extra" bills were produced.

Again, with EB 2.0 for example, it's harder for a spectator to go back in their minds and say "oh, he was just hiding the 100's" - because there is ALSO the one-dollar bills to be accounted for, which are apparently now gone. It complicates the back-tracking process that, whether we admit it or not, a LOT of spectators go through.

Hope that make's some sense.


As I mention in another thread, I use Rainmaker as an opener. Since I go on to other magic, I think it kind of "short circuits" their back-tracking. At least, from the comments I have heard from spectators, it seems to.

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