On Feb 28, 2020, Christopher Taylor wrote:
For me it was this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-VYn6gUBFE&feature=youtu.be

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On Feb 29, 2020, David Thiel wrote:
I have to say that it was one of two experiences. The first could have been presented as a mentalism effect but wasn't. It was around the early 1980's and I didn't even think about magic or mentalism in those days. They didn't mean anything more to me than origami or (shudder) juggling.

I was at a street performer festival and this ragged man in a cheesy costume did the Invisi*le Deck. He did it badly -- but I remember standing in the audience with my mouth open. HOW DID HE DO THAT??? I went back every day to watch him. (I wasn't stalking him...I was INVESTIGATING...ok?) I watched my pet theories get shot down one at a time. He didn't have 52 decks of cards. The volunteers weren't plants...etc. I was utterly baffled.

In the olden days there was no internet. So I wound up at a magic shop -- a middle aged man who ran a special events company -- asking the owner to sell me that trick. He refused because he said I wasn't worthy of that effect. He was right. And THAT encounter led to a relationship as close as possible to a magic mentor. I still perform the ID today. You could say that seeing that effect changed my life because it did.

The other effect left me quite literally gobsmacked. Richard Osterlind had invited me to attend his workshop in Vegas after one MindVention. So I went and he chose me as the volunteer for a CMR demonstration. First I hid an object. In a pocket. In a guy's jacket. In the middle of the room. Since I was the volunteer I KNOW I wasn't helping him and I wasn't a plant. But he took my hand in his and went RIGHT to that guy. That pocket. That object.

I was obsessed with that effect for months. I nagged Richard into doing a book about it. I worked on it for a long time and finally put it into my show.

But I still fondly remember the utter wonder the first time I saw it.


David

On Jan 20, 2021, kleqy wrote:

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On Feb 29, 2020, David Thiel wrote:
I have to say that it was one of two experiences. The first could have been presented as a mentalism effect but wasn't. It was around the early 1980's and I didn't even think about magic or mentalism in those days. They didn't mean anything more to me than origami or (shudder) juggling.

I was at a street performer festival and this ragged man in a cheesy costume did the Invisi*le Deck. He did it badly -- but I remember standing in the audience with my mouth open. HOW DID HE DO THAT??? I went back every day to watch him. (I wasn't stalking him...I was INVESTIGATING...ok?) I watched my pet theories get shot down one at a time. He didn't have 52 decks of cards. The volunteers weren't plants...etc. I was utterly baffled.

In the olden days there was no internet. So I wound up at a magic shop -- a middle aged man who ran a special events company -- asking the owner to sell me that trick. He refused because he said I wasn't worthy of that effect. He was right. And THAT encounter led to a relationship as close as possible to a magic mentor. I still perform the ID today. You could say that seeing that effect changed my life because it did.

The other effect left me quite literally gobsmacked. Richard Osterlind had invited me to attend his workshop in Vegas after one MindVention. So I went and he chose me as the volunteer for a CMR demonstration. First I hid an object. In a pocket. In a guy's jacket. In the middle of the room. Since I was the volunteer I KNOW I wasn't helping him and I wasn't a plant. But he took my hand in his and went RIGHT to that guy. That pocket. That object.

I was obsessed with that effect for months. I nagged Richard into doing a book about it. I worked on it for a long time and finally put it into my show.

But I still fondly remember the utter wonder the first time I saw it.


David

Where can I find this please?

On May 15, 2021, akashdeep617 wrote:
I live in a place where there are no magicians around me so all the effects I have seen is on YouTube or T.V and the one that I find the best is by DB in which he manipulates the psychology students in one of his specials where he put money in an envelope and ask them to tell in which envelope the money s there are just two envelope and every time they miss he increase the cash . That is just truly astonishing .

On May 16, 2021, ltrblst wrote:

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On May 15, 2021, akashdeep617 wrote:
I live in a place where there are no magicians around me so all the effects I have seen is on YouTube or T.V and the one that I find the best is by DB in which he manipulates the psychology students in one of his specials where he put money in an envelope and ask them to tell in which envelope the money s there are just two envelope and every time they miss he increase the cash . That is just truly astonishing .

Where I can learn this?

On May 17, 2021, akashdeep617 wrote:

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On May 16, 2021, ltrblst wrote:

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On May 15, 2021, akashdeep617 wrote:
I live in a place where there are no magicians around me so all the effects I have seen is on YouTube or T.V and the one that I find the best is by DB in which he manipulates the psychology students in one of his specials where he put money in an envelope and ask them to tell in which envelope the money s there are just two envelope and every time they miss he increase the cash . That is just truly astonishing .

Where I can learn this?

Actually I also have no idea where to learn it from. But it's the most astonishing thing that I have ever seen.

On May 17, 2021, Steven Conner wrote:
Https://fb.watch/5xJlziII2A/

On May 17, 2021, Steven Conner wrote:
13 Steps by Annemann.

On May 17, 2021, Steven Conner wrote:
13 Steps by Annemann.

On May 17, 2021, ltrblst wrote:
Why after years I still see people ranting because they are too close-minded to understand that everyone is different?

I personally enjoy a lot seeing a good mentalism or magic performance, but as a magician I enjoy even more to reverse engineer it and apprieciate the clever and smart construction behind. Otherwise, nothing wrong, but I would be a layman.

The whole purpouse of this a forum is, among the other things, to share thoughts, ideas, comments in a "controlled" environment.

And if someone put in print his effects or market them, then I support the creators buying their books (last one for me was Doug Dyment's), videos (last one was "Power of Poker" by John Bannon) and paying for their shows.

Still I don't ramble non sense about people thinking differently from me.

P.S. we were talking about the envelope effects, not the Tim's one.