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No methods needed, no techniques need to be intimately discussed...

concepts...

concepts that are befitting spooky/bizarre/unsettling "stuff"...a creative challenge for you...

no released props, though you can use whatever object(s) you like - sand, leaves, pendulums, real old books, newspapers, whatever you like...no mention of jack the ripper allowed!

here's some ideas:
the birth of a ghost
lucky rabbit foot pendulum
last breath captured inside 'something'
spirits that communicate via the feelings of hot and cold
a payment of bones, or a bone collector, teeth that move across the table trying to talk
echoes from the past passing on answers to the future
a ribbon that takes away the power of speech
a thick strong hair that restores itself when cut
a stone's throw away - being a rock or a pebble and a symbol or word is found on it, that wasn't before
psychometric soul readings
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A few more...

the pen is mighter than the sword - so draw blood with a pencil (literally or metaphorically)
making a sketch move/come to life
heart-strings, what would they look like? would you pluck them? do they make a sound?
living and dead stars - their light is still alive, despite them being dead...we are all made of stardust...
pet's ashes come alive and move across the table when called
a scarf that shrinking around the neck when a lie is told
an eye patch that changes the wearer's eye colour/pupils completely - vision transference
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Ok, that's my future catalogue sorted Iain!
Seriously though, thanks for a thought provoking post, it really has inspired my thinking.
I also agree with the premise, that we should be creatively involved with the art, not just passive consumers (points gun at foot and pulls trigger)..
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On Aug 17, 2014, IAIN wrote:
No methods needed, no techniques need to be intimately discussed...

concepts...

concepts that are befitting spooky/bizarre/unsettling "stuff"...a creative challenge for you...

no released props, though you can use whatever object(s) you like - sand, leaves, pendulums, real old books, newspapers, whatever you like...no mention of jack the ripper allowed!

here's some ideas:
the birth of a ghost
lucky rabbit foot pendulum
last breath captured inside 'something'
spirits that communicate via the feelings of hot and cold
a payment of bones, or a bone collector, teeth that move across the table trying to talk
echoes from the past passing on answers to the future
a ribbon that takes away the power of speech
a thick strong hair that restores itself when cut
a stone's throw away - being a rock or a pebble and a symbol or word is found on it, that wasn't before
psychometric soul readings


Thank God! A meaningful thread. . .I'm in!!!
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An arrow pendulum finds the photo of an Indian massacre.
Corpse oil in a Thai talisman mysteriously comes to life.

Great thread I'll have a think about this.
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A photograph of a murdered family that changes to communicate with those present. I developed this and published the routine in one of my LR Parades (I think 2002).

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Here are some of my first thoughts.

First of all Bill Montana has already made one of these! Bill posted a thread on the Moon some time ago regarding various artifacts that he was working on. They were all truly wonderful, but the one that really moved me was a glass container that had captured the last breath of his dying grandmother. The interesting thing was this. I was so emotionally moved by the context that I do not even remember if Bill had a routine attached (although I am sure that he did). The point being that it was the *concept* of this was the thing that really grabbed me, along with the utter beauty of the prop itself. So I would start with this challenge not by being concerned about what the 'trick' would be, but about the the potential richness of the ideas. Let us look at this from the point of view of the audience - in the context of bizarre magic this would be usually (but not always) be an intimate gathering. Would they care if they had been 'fooled'? I doubt it. So I would start from the premise of the evocative nature of the idea itself. I think you could could take each one of these concepts and make something from them that engages the imagination of the audience through storytelling alone. How wonderful, how strange that you had a vessel that contained the dying breath of a recently departed loved one? What would this mean? What would this breath contain? How would this effect us as human beings? Maybe there is an effect that comes in later, but this is secondary. The strength of it would depend upon the context and the story told. Perhaps there is no need for any more than this? Dare I even say that attaching a 'trick' to this would be at least irrelevant and at most a distraction. More importantly, is this not what makes us unique in our strange little alcove?
Imagine this for one moment. An intimate number of guests assemble. They are each given a glass of bandy, the conversation turns (as it always seems to) to stranger things. To the metaphysical aspects of our mundane reality. As magicians, we sense that magic is in the air. So we reach for an artifact and start telling a story...
I am sure that Mr Chelman will understand what I am am talking about here...
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Last breath captured inside "something"

Let's say it's in a closed glass container.
When you make contact, the glass fogs up.
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Last breath captured inside "something"

Let's say it's in a closed glass container.
When you make contact, the glass fogs up.

Great idea. I've always been so intrigued by the last breath concept after reading about this (I'm a big fan of Mr. Ford): https://www.thehenryford.org/exhibits/pic/2004/july.asp
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On Aug 18, 2014, magus wrote:
Last breath captured inside "something"

Let's say it's in a closed glass container.
When you make contact, the glass fogs up.


Perhaps also something, in lowered light situations with shadows...control over or altering shape, sizes, of shadows projected on a wall or elsewhere, manipulation of shadows directly or indirectly, capture of shadows,
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The monster under the bed/in the wardrobe -recalling our old fears as children, something is heard to scratch and growl in the wardrobe; the participant is invited to open it and shed their fears.

A scream trapped in a vessel - it is released; participant is asked to hear it and absorb it. They can then correctly identify what caused it.

The storm: the magus can invoke a storm.

The killing curse: the magus demonstrates a killing curse usng insects/maggots (I did this at Whitby this year, muwuhahaha - might video the concept)

House of leaves: participant measures their house after invocations and find that the measurements are "non-Euclidean"!

Scry: images form in the glass of a mirror ( and not by breathing on it!)

More to follow...the kidsare calling...
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We had something like that before...

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......forum=14
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The concept of Pandora's box has facinated me for a good time. I've got a vague idea for a routine going after reading part of Mark Townsend's story the wizards gift. In one part of the stroy one of the main characters is given a box which keeps your worst fears inside. The box feels very heavy and sounds as if there is something inside, the fear mounts, the box sounds louder, but when opended nothing.
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Pandora's box equals orville meyer's cigar box, no?

People post their fears into the box...

Change the method and you have a q&a too...
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Here's something I've had in mind for a while, but will almost certainly never develop or perform...

Bear with me. It's a bit long-winded, but we'll get there.

On my way to work, every day I pass by St Philip's cathedral in Birmingham. The graveyard around the cathedral is where the emo kids all hang out smoking weed. On the outside of the wall surrounding the graveyard is a stone angel with a broken drinking fountain.

Streetview (complete with emos):

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Close-up:
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As you can see from the second photo - quite often there are flowers left in the arms of the angel.

Other times they are left in the bowl of the drinking fountain underneath.

In passing this every day, I came to realise that people use it as a general place to remember loved ones. Perhaps loved ones who are not buried at this cathedral. Perhaps loved ones who are buried far away, overseas.

Often the floral tributes stay until they are wilted and crumbling.

Sometimes there are photographs and other mementos left.

Once there was a book. A large, thick, A4 hardback diary type of book.

It rested there for around a week before it disappeared. I wanted to look inside it every time I passed, but it felt wrong. Nevertheless, something about that book caught my imagination. You could tell just by looking that it was full of writing.

In my mind I decided it was a long letter to someone who had passed. A diary of the first year after their death. A record of the pain and the loss and the absence felt by one who was left behind. A journal of their journey through the bleakest time. Perhaps a journey that ended happily, with victories and good days and hope. Perhaps a journey that ended in sadness and 'giving up'.

And then, of course, the bizarreist in me had the deeply inappropriate thought that you could make a routine based around such a book and use the true back-story I just related (with one detail changed - in this story I would have taken the book, and probably be stuck with chilling repercussions for my sacrilegious act). Perhaps it could be used to contact a spirit. Perhaps there was a startling revelation in the book that concerned a participant's life. Perhaps. Who knows...
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Wow, this is marvelous inspiring, thought generating stuff.

Thank you AIN for beginning this thread.

Several of your proposals captured my imagination.

I love it!

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Wow, this is marvelous inspiring, thought generating stuff.

Thank you AIN for beginning this thread.

Several of your proposals captured my imagination.

I love it!

KOtah
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Just a thought on the grandmas last breath, if you had in in a bottle sealed with a loose fitting cork, you could make the cork pop out at the right moment and at the same time hear that last breath (sounds amazing)
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MatCult if that statue was near me that lady would be crying blood and the townies would not be hanging out there anymore before school. Smile

Here is a picture of the last breath thing that Christopher mentioned a few posts ago which I made. These props were used as a part story telling routine. The props shown in the photo are now in a private collection.

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa120......071e.jpg

The key to making one of these type of props is to use old parts even that tape is about 50 years old and was recovered in an old tool box I purchased full of really cool older tools. Also the test tube does not have a manufactures name on it. Its just an old glass test tube. The wood stand and engraved card are newer.

The photo is old too.

There is a couple of way to get the tube to move and it can be used ungaffed or it can be gaffed. The routine was strong enough that nothing needed to happen with these props. Dodd would later make contact via the seance. Whats nice about this type of work is that certian props can set the stage for something later on in the show. I only have about 4 or 5 vials left and I not sure if I have enough tape left to make any more. I have one vial on stand that I still use in one of my acts. The other vials were really hard to find so when I find a small stash I but them all. Anyway just wanted to stop by and drop a photo of what Christopher and George are talking about. Now I got to get back to working on my notes for my upcomming teleseminar with Artful Mentalism Events that's coming up on August 27th.
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PS I just noticed that I finnally made the Inner Circle. That was a lot less exciting than I thought it would be. Anyway I going back to work now.
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