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Nestor D Special user France (Paris) 904 Posts 
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A classic test to see how much of a believer/skeptic you are :
https://www.wlv.ac.uk/PDF/sas_ASGS.pdf I love it : it's raw meat for psychological/parapsychological presentation 
This could be used to select a volonter, survey a sitter before a reading, or subtly suspend disbelief as you make your subject consider every enconter he add with ESP in his life (I believe one could enginer a Scale for this precise purpose...)... What would you do with it ? an other version here : http://aiprinc.org/Thalbournes_ASGS.pdf and http://aiprinc.org/Thalbournes_Transliminality_Scale.pdf see here for more informations : http://aiprinc.org/resources.asp |
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Aus Inner circle Australia 1042 Posts
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Very handy info Nestor D, thanks for sharing it.
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12587 Posts
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The whole point of Schmeidler's original sheep/goat experiment, though, was the finding that people who were "goats" had markedly lower scores on standard ESP tests than those identified as "sheep." This has been interpreted as an example of "negative psi."
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Syndrome Regular user CANADIAN IMP 165 Posts
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That's great Nestor D. Thank you for passing that on.
Best, Alex
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DocBenWiz Special user Meridian, Idaho 998 Posts
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Very interesting posts and thanks for sharing, Nestor D.
Many decades ago (early 70's) I was collaborating on a special form of psychological scale to see if belief in a all sorts of and a variety of paranormal ideas, phenomena, experiences, etc was significantly correlated with "hypnotic suggestibility". I was working with Dr T. X. Barber, PhD at the time as he had had published by then over well over 100 experimental-type hypnosis research articles in peer-reviewed professional journals. I called the research "scale" the "Psiosophy Scale" and we were to use the "Barber Suggestibility Scale" after administering both to a group of nursing students (captive and regular research "victims") at our hospifal at the time. Alas we never completed the statistical and data refinements of the Psiosophy", although the initial results did show some trending toward a significant correlation. Therefore, Dr Barber and I never completed that particular project. Obviously, in that general area of study Scmeidler went on to complete some very interesting and significant work and with a differenf form of measurement and data collection scales.
"Pay no attention to that strange man behind the curtain" (it's only "Doc Benjamin from the Amazing Wizardelia Wagon")
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C.J. Inner circle There's a lotta rambling in my 2366 Posts
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"A relationship between narcissistic personality and paranormal belief was discovered in a study involving the Australian Sheep-Goat Scale".
-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Sheep-Goat_Scale
Connor Jacobs - The Thought Sculptor
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Nestor D Special user France (Paris) 904 Posts
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That's interesing DocBenWiz, I have read that :
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Thalbourne and Houran (2000) found that participants scoring high on transliminality also The last scale I shared is a "transliminality scale", the fourth point could suggest hypnotic suggestibility but I am not competent when it comes to hypnosis. It's indeed not just a "test", that scale have been used ever since to demonstratre other thing than the sheep/goat effect ("if you're a skeptic you will miss : you need to believe") : they found that peoples with strong egos tend to score higher on the scale (they believe easier, that's a good thing to know...). edit : C.J. just double-crossed me |
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Stunninger Inner circle 3115 Posts
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Absolutely fascinating! Thank you for sharing this, Nestor.
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18859 Posts
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On Aug 23, 2014, Nestor D wrote: Why are all of these links gone?  
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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Michael Daniels Inner circle Isle of Man 1639 Posts
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Michael Thalbourne's Transliminality Scale is available at
https://www.aiprinc.org/documents/Thalbo......cale.pdf Mike |
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18859 Posts
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TranSLIMinality!!!!!!!!!
That is amazing!!!!!!!    
What do I do with the information retrieved with this survey? My son will go crazy for this.
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18859 Posts
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On Oct 8, 2025, Michael Daniels wrote: I printed a few of these out ... Are there more?
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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Michael Daniels Inner circle Isle of Man 1639 Posts
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On Oct 23, 2025, Slim King wrote: The now official Revised Transliminality Scale (RTS) was published in 2000. It reduced the number of questions from 29 to 17 to help mitigate age and gender biases. Use of the RTS is restricted to bona fide researchers and it is not publicly available. Mike |
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Philemon Vanderbeck Inner circle Glasgow, Scotland 4892 Posts
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Professor Philemon Vanderbeck
That Creepy Magician "I use my sixth sense to create the illusion of possessing the other five." |
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18859 Posts
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The Watchword Personality Test book is arriving on Monday for research possibilities.
Swear there ain't no heaven And I pray there ain't no hell But I'll never know by living Only by dying will tell Yes, only by dying will tell, yeah Only my dying will tell
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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Michael Daniels Inner circle Isle of Man 1639 Posts
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On Oct 26, 2025, Slim King wrote: Hope you find it interesting and useful Slim! Though I don't use it for readings myself, it could certainly fit that kind of presentation. Mike |
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18859 Posts
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It should arrive any minute now!!!!
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18859 Posts
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I'm taking the test tonight. Hopefully my son and wife will too.
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18859 Posts
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My son took the test ... I'm afraid that I already know too much about it to take it.
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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Michael Daniels Inner circle Isle of Man 1639 Posts
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On Oct 29, 2025, Slim King wrote: :) It is actually quite difficult to anticipate or influence where the test is going. As long as you don't deliberately manipulate or censor your responses, it will generally still give interesting and useful results. Mike |
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