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The.Amazing.Boy
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Hello there,

I really don't know if this is the right forum but anyway here it is.
I remember seeing a while ago some video of a famous entertainer talking about a theory in magic called something like "the three attention points" or something similar. The main idea was that a spectator can follow (read "pay attention to") two spots or things if he really wants to but doing so for three is impossible. That being said it is then possible to direct properly the gaze of the audience to properly shape the desired misirection pattern.
I also remember that the performer was using a fan of cards held up in the air to make something else dissapear.

It sounds a lot like a Slydini technique, but could anyone confirm and provide some kind of source ?
This would be of a great help.

Thanks a lot ! Smile
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Search for "directed focus" rather than "misdirection" -- might help
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I wrote a guest editorial in Magic about the power of 3, if you do come across the article you are talking about I would really appreciate a head's up please, it does sound very interesting.
Thanks!
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@funsway : good point, I'll think about it in my next search.
@cupsandballsmagic : will do ! Smile
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Amazing Boy, try this article by Jarle Leirpoll: http://www.leirpoll.com/choreographic_misdirection.htm

Jim
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Thanks Jim, I'm always happy to read you in the threads I follow ! Smile
I'll dive into this article tonight and tomorrow. It really seems interesting. Actually I nearly found it because I stumbled upon this link which refers to yours as well as many others :

http://www.leirpoll.com/misdirection/misdirection.htm

If some of you are interested I think it is a goldmine.

Still looking for that video though, I'll keep you guys updated. To me it really felt like a very advanced misdirection technique because it used three simultaneous actions, instead of two like we usually all do.
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TAB, I still marvel over your Shadow Coins video! I'm curious, did you ever get that routine perfected to the extent that you wanted?

Take care.

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Well, I found a few ideas for the presentation and for the cleanup at the end, but I think I reached a peak for the technical aspects. Still working on the speed though because some said slower could be nice. Anyway it is really good like this anyway, everybody seems to enjoy it Smile I wish I let the video public, but out of respect for Kenner this is better like this ! Smile
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Sounds good, TAB. Good luck!

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The first thing to watch out for is confusion. Check Vernon's comment about that.

Then there's Juan Tamariz's Five Points book which includes guidance about how to attend the audience while performing a secret action under an overt action (those are likely the three points you mention Smile ) which has a nice picture of him holding a fan of cards Smile
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Thanks for these two directions Jonathan ! Smile
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Misdirection or, as Funsway better refers to it as "directed focus", is made according to Arturo Ascanio of three elements
A glance at the intended move the audience will have to focus attention to
An "in transit action" (false transfer, lapping,...) for the busy hand TO BE ABLE TO make the move announced by the glance
The "main" move announced by the glance.

Vernon was calling this magic management and his best demonstration was in Kangaroo Coin with the use of the glass placed on the left side

Slydini is more focused on how to generate strong amplitude and low amplitude of attention around the "main move" (body erect, up movement...) and low amplitude of attention (shoulders back, breathing out....) during the "in transit action". Recently Tom Stone in his Penguin Live Lecture develops such points with additional points

Juan Tamariz illustrates it, as Jonathan reminded, in Five Point In Magic but he also explains in his 2nd(?!) DVD lecture with International Magic that to create an "off beat" attention time, one only needs to create a strong focus before as (and this was also stressed by John Ramsay), after a strong time, comes a weak time of attention (Ramsay was calling it a "blind spot").

Tommy Wonder didn't have enough space in his books to really fully explain the "rule of three" that we were discussing (by fax at the time) extensively when he wrote his book. But if you get there, you'll find informations that may not be totally clear but are, in my opinion, very pertinent
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Once again, this is very useful! Thanks Laurence! Smile
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On Sep 29, 2014, Lawrence O wrote
Tommy Wonder didn't have enough space in his books to really fully explain the "rule of three" that we were discussing (by fax at the time) extensively when he wrote his book.


Hi Lawrence!
Are you able to share this information?
Thanks.
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