On Aug 30, 2014, TonyB2009 wrote:

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On Aug 30, 2014, Dannydoyle wrote:

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On Aug 30, 2014, TonyB2009 wrote:

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On Aug 30, 2014, Dannydoyle wrote:
Drugs are inherently dangerous.

No, they are not. Some cultures use drugs as part of their religious rites, and they are not associated with anti-social behaviour. Alcohol in moderation can be good for you, it is only when it is overused or abused that it slips into danger territory. It is not inherently dangerous. Same with marijuana, caffine, or any of a number of other commonly used drugs.

If you had said crack cocaine was inherently dangerous, I would not dispute that. But not all drugs are.

And like other assertions on this thread, from myself and from others, I am not going to back it up with extraneous studies. Dig them out yourself.

Now you are going to play that stupid game? According to this logic guns are not Inherantly dangerous either and you have countered your whole point. This is the problem with pseudo intellectual process in action. They are not dangerous until someone loads and aims and fires or does something to cause an unintentional discharge. Thanks for proving my point.

And when you make an assertion it is up to YOU to back it up Tony not anyone to do the research. You are the one making the BS claim that somehow miraculously crime will drop by 50%. Cool back it up or it is just hot air. Heck I can drop the crime rate by 100%. Just abolish all laws. Easy as can be. If the drop in crime comes only from people not being prosecuted for that crime any more it is insignificant. Except of course to those not being prosecuted.

I have not countered any of my point. Guns ARE inherently dangerous. Not so with drugs. Some are and some aren't.

And if you dispute my point that gun deaths would be halved in Ireland by legalizing pot, then produce some proofs yourself.

On Aug 30, 2014, LobowolfXXX wrote:

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On Aug 30, 2014, R.S. wrote:
Since this was brought up earlier, here's some interesting stats on Christianity and the murder rate...

http://www.cybercollege.com/fog33.htm

"As reported in the Journal of Religion and Society, in 2005, when the top 18 "prosperous democracies" are compared, a reverse relationship becomes evident between "quantifiable societal health" and "religious fervency."

In other words, the more religious a society is the more social problems that society has.

By social problems they are talking about suicide, teen pregnancy, abortion, sexually transmitted disease, homicides, divorce, and child mortality."


and...

http://secularist10.hubpages.com/hub/Rel......nd-Crime


Ron

Can I get a vegan pie with some of the leftover cherries?

On Aug 30, 2014, balducci wrote:
Fine, then let me ask a new question set.

Would you support the teaching of Christianity if teaching Christianity reduced violence?

Would you do so if the teachers were all atheists who instructed the kids that Christianity was a bunch of fables and myths?

Of course you needn't answer, I was just curious.

On Aug 30, 2014, LobowolfXXX wrote:
There are people out there with the good faith belief that federal government bureaucracy isn't the route to good schools.

On Aug 30, 2014, LobowolfXXX wrote:
You have "proof" that gun deaths would be halved by legalizing pot?

On Aug 29, 2014, acesover wrote:
Is there something someone can post to get this thread deleted? It is the same rhetoric on guns over and over again.

Lets see now:

All guns are bad. No they aren't. Yes they are.

It is the individual not the gun. It is the gun. If we banned all guns everything would be fine. No it wouldn't. Yes it would.

America has a terrible gun culture and all the other countries are better. You are wrong. No I am not. there was a poll that said guns are bad. Well I have one that says guns are good. Yours is biased mine isn't.

Joe Blow says guns are bad. Well I say that, Joe Blow is a left wing liberal.

John Smith says guns are good and necessary. Well I say that, John Smith is a right wing conservative redneck.

People should not be allowed to buy the kind of guns I do not like because I say so. I think those black ones are bad and are made for killing and not for anything else. But there are thousands and thousands of them that never killed anyone. Yea well just wait. And on and on.

Oh yeah. Well what about abortion? WHAT?

Does this sound familiar?

On Aug 30, 2014, LobowolfXXX wrote:
I had to backtrack, myself; I thought this was an Indian food thread.

On Aug 31, 2014, slowkneenuh wrote:
Other than both ending in a tragic death, the only other common trait is stupidity.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/nation......371.html

On Aug 30, 2014, Dannydoyle wrote:
You have no grasp of how "organized crime" was run during American prohibition. That is obvious.

Also people are criminals because they are. If you take away the income from the drugs, they move to kidnapping. They will move to other drugs. Do you REALLY think that criminals will just go get regular jobs? Are you serious?

Of course you have no proof. Of course it is just an opinion. Thank you for pointing that out.