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mastermindreader![]() 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12587 Posts ![]() |
The time travel enigmas would kick in. Reminds me of the Stephen King novel 11/22/63. The protagonist goes back in time and prevents the Kennedy assassination. The fabric of the universe starts to collapse.
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Dannydoyle![]() Eternal Order 21765 Posts ![]() |
Yea then the thing that caused you to go back in time in the first place would not have happened, so you would not be compelled to go and so forth.
BUT by the same token it is as realistic a dilemma as a girl in a wheel chair in a fertility clinic with thousands of fertilized embryos.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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mastermindreader![]() 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12587 Posts ![]() |
But what if you could go forward in time and found out that the embryos were all clones of Hitler- the boys from Brazil?
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R.S.![]() Regular user CT one day I'll have 196 Posts ![]() |
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On Sep 2, 2014, Dannydoyle wrote: Care to answer the question Danny? Why is it so far fetched? Talk about fake moral dilemmas! Let me know when you have a working time machine. ![]() Ron
"It is error only, and not truth, that shrinks from inquiry." Thomas Paine
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R.S.![]() Regular user CT one day I'll have 196 Posts ![]() |
So far, for the record, Bob and myself would save the little girl. Anybody else care to answer? Anybody here who would save the 1,000 embryos and let the girl burn to death?
Ron
"It is error only, and not truth, that shrinks from inquiry." Thomas Paine
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tomsk192![]() Inner circle 3894 Posts ![]() |
Ech!
Still with the abortion? You sick *****. The mayhem suddenly makes sense. Sorry for you. ![]() |
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tomsk192![]() Inner circle 3894 Posts ![]() |
So the argument goes:
It's legal to kill unborn children [sic]: therefore it's okay to shoot the **** out of everything with stupidly powerful weapons. Oh yeah. Makes perfect sense to me. Anyone for tennis? |
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tommy![]() Eternal Order Devil's Island 15717 Posts ![]() |
The Hitler youth movement springs to mind.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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tomsk192![]() Inner circle 3894 Posts ![]() |
Or just a bunch of a*&^h*&%s, tommy?
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mastermindreader![]() 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12587 Posts ![]() |
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On Sep 2, 2014, Dannydoyle wrote: Actually, in the Middle Ages- and even later- it was believed that the entire miniature human was contained in the sperm. Hence, such activity WAS genocide in the minds of many. Fortunately, even then there were rational people who didn't accept dogma as certainty. Hence the Monty Python tune. |
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balducci![]() Loyal user Canada 227 Posts ![]() |
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On Sep 2, 2014, R.S. wrote: Is this the same girl who grows up to kill a man with an uzi?
Make America Great Again! - Trump in 2020 ... "We're a capitalistic society. I go into business, I don't make it, I go bankrupt. They're not going to bail me out. I've been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me? No." - Craig T. Nelson, actor.
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Dannydoyle![]() Eternal Order 21765 Posts ![]() |
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On Sep 2, 2014, mastermindreader wrote: See this is educational. I had no idea! And Ron please. Talk to me when you have a fire and a little girl in a wheelchair and I have to choose. I know balducci is feverishly googling right now to find you some help.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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tomsk192![]() Inner circle 3894 Posts ![]() |
Why are you even bothering to answer that? It's an unrelated problem. R.S. is being a tw@t.
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Dannydoyle![]() Eternal Order 21765 Posts ![]() |
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On Sep 2, 2014, balducci wrote: Yes and several others later in life.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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tommy![]() Eternal Order Devil's Island 15717 Posts ![]() |
It's hard to believe that it's legal. I mean, I can imagine someone allowing his nine year old daughter to shoot an Uzi, because there is one every in village they say. However I can not imagine how law makers, presumably a well educated, reasonable group, in the cold light of day, making a law which allows it. The children at that age, they are not even criminally responsible are they? Even if it were perfectly safe, wouldn't it still be physiologically disturbing? It seems to me, really creepy.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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LobowolfXXX![]() Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts ![]() |
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On Sep 2, 2014, tomsk192 wrote: If that's how little you understand the analogy, I can see where it would be so frustrating.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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LobowolfXXX![]() Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts ![]() |
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On Sep 2, 2014, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: It's not about setting anyone's moral standards; it's about using the power of government for force others to adhere to one's own moral beliefs. And that's what's happening whether we're talking about outlawing abortion, or Uzis, or the ACA. The position that some people should be required to buy health insurance to help subsidize health insurance for others who might not otherwise be able to afford it is a moral position. The position that government sanctions should be placed on a business that comes to terms with a worker to pay the worker a wage below an arbitrary rate is a moral position, and so on.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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LobowolfXXX![]() Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts ![]() |
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On Sep 2, 2014, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: ...then the guy says, "So now we're just haggling over price!"
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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acesover![]() Special user I believe I have 821 Posts ![]() |
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On Sep 2, 2014, landmark wrote: In this day and age she should have her head examined for getting PG in the first place. Do you believe in capital punishment? Who murdered the baby her or the doctor performing the abortion? She gave her consent for murder knowingly. What is the punishment for allowing a murder to take place when you could have prevented it. Answer that question and you will find what her punishment should be based on if she was not raped or her life was not in jeopardy in having her child. She paid a doctor to murder her child. So you decide her punishment because if she had the baby her life would be so terrible as to have a child killed so she would not be inconvenienced. You decide her punishment because you would not like my decision. Also if her mom and dad are to old and cannot care for themselves she should have them Euthanized as not to interfere with her life style. After all they are just like a child and cannot care for themselves in many cases and need constant attention. they are such a burden on her. So just get rid of them like a fetus. They probably will not know what is happening same as her child whom was aborted..
If I were to agree with you. Then we would both be wrong. As of Apr 5, 2015 10:26 pm I have 880 posts. Used to have over 1,000
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landmark![]() Inner circle within a triangle 5195 Posts ![]() |
@aces, Danny: If you think abortion is murder then certainly the woman is at least an accomplice. What is the usual punishment for accomplice to murder?
While there may be be a few people who believe that a woman who has an abortion is a murderer and thus deserves the punishment for murder, I think the percentage of such people even among those who wish to make abortion illegal is very low. That points to the fact that most people--pro legal abortion or anti-legal abortion--have a sense that abortion is something different from murder, whether they admit it or not. See Lobo's comment earlier for the same argument on the other side. To me, what those two arguments on both sides of the issue add up to, is that abortion is a very particular situation that needs its own case law. No amount of moral hairsplitting will ever solve it, because it is a social issue not a moral one.
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