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Does the term "anchor baby" apply or am I misusing it?

And just because someone has been here against the law for a long time does not change the fact they are here against the law. It is a quite complex issue.
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That's be an interesting provision...a path to naturalized citizenship, but a citizen show naturalized (i.e. One who didn't originally come here legally) can never be the petitioner for a relative's future immigration application.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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Sort of what I am getting at. I mean obviously it is a very complex issue and one of those issues is to discourage the practice in the future. Just granting amnesty on any level does no such thing.
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It's interesting that some of the people who are the most vocal about cracking down on private incentives (i.e. clamoring about the businesses that hire illegal immigrants) are the most supportive of government incentives.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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It's interesting that some of the people who are the most vocal about cracking down on private incentives (i.e. clamoring about the businesses that hire illegal immigrants) are the most supportive of government incentives.

I'm not sure I completely follow what you are saying. Personally, I think the businesses should follow the law. At the same time, I think most DREAM type acts are huge concessions / incentives to businesses.

Also, what you described are both instances of supporting law and order. Supporting existing law. And supporting new laws when existing legislation is thought to be deficient in some way.
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I'm not talking about supporting law and order; I'm talking about people's beliefs about what the law should be (as opposed to whether or not it should be enforced). So, for instance, people want to punish businesses who hire illegal immigrants. Ok, fair enough. Those businesses incentivize illegal immigration. But those who are the most vehement about punishing those businesses also (tend to) want illegal immigrants to have drivers' licenses, free public education, public healthcare services, discounted state university tuition, etc. - also incentives for illegal immigration.
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Try to make a virtue of necessity and spend the less you get more wisely to make it go further.
Such are the incentives we get from our government.

I know, lets swap governments and cops for a year.
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Sorry for another non sequitur, but earlier I mistook one of Ron's posts and was rude in response. I'm sorry about that. I retract what I said to him.

Good to see that this thread has leapt from abortion to torture.

Originally, it was about a little girl who shot somebody dead with an Uzi. Now it is about something different, hooray.

I watched Dr Who with my nine year old son today; we chatted about it too. Am I a bad parent for not trying to teach him to fire an automatic weapon for no reason other than to use a gun? I am worried that he is missing out on gun-firing classes. He is nine years old, it should be his right to fire a Kalashnikov, Uzi or similar. Harumph.


We issue a lot of tourist visas if you want to surprise him for Christmas.


I'll be spending tourist dollars in your country next summer.

I just hope that my children don't see the same appalling police attitude as I saw, as a child visiting the USA.

We were stopped in the car, God knows why, and the cops were disgustingly rude. It all passed without incident, but it was ironic that the US Gov used to fly my Dad over to lecture their security services.

He wasn't pleased at the time. Neither were any of us impressed. I've experienced better policing in North Africa.
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Well, to be fair, remember, you're supposed to drive on the right side of the road here.


What part of the U.S.A. will you be visiting?
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Well, the plan is to fly to NYC. Then to Baltimore to see friends. Then fly to New Mexico, do a a bit of a drive through to Arizona. Then chip on to San Francisco to see another friend. Then the Rockies, then home.

You have beautiful country.
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Wow, sounds like you're going to see quite a bit of it. New Mexico is particular beautiful, in my opinion.
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I do agree. I saw it twenty odd years back, and I have a yearning to see it again.

Some of my firmest friends are from that country.
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The US is the strongest country in the world militarily and will remain that way for a long time. We control the air and sea. We are not behind in the things that count.


Sad really that the only thing that counts to some is how many bodies we can pile up and how quickly we can do it.


Then you feel that maybe someone like Russia and Putin should be in the lead? Or possibly ISIS? Hmmmm.

I don't know where you are coming from but I do know I don't want to be there.
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Sorry for another non sequitur, but earlier I mistook one of Ron's posts and was rude in response. I'm sorry about that. I retract what I said to him.

Good to see that this thread has leapt from abortion to torture.

Originally, it was about a little girl who shot somebody dead with an Uzi. Now it is about something different, hooray.

I watched Dr Who with my nine year old son today; we chatted about it too. Am I a bad parent for not trying to teach him to fire an automatic weapon for no reason other than to use a gun? I am worried that he is missing out on gun-firing classes. He is nine years old, it should be his right to fire a Kalashnikov, Uzi or similar. Harumph.


He is definitely falling behind in his education. No child left behind. Smile It is hard to play catch up. But you and he must try. Smile now go out and get a nice semi auto rifle preferably in black and start teaching and learning.
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Yea I mean he was following ALL the UN resolutions to the letter after all.


In the same manner as Israel and the US? I await all the wars based on non-compliance with UN resolutions.

The charges against Hussein were selective nonsense ramped up so the war machine could be greased.


Yea! Hussein was a great humanitarian. Smile He definitely had a way with people...and some he just did away with. Jeeeez.
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The other day I was in Stratford. There is nothing there at all. Except that is for lots of American tourists, getting very politely ripped off with the prices they being over charged there. It is worse than Paris, the prices I mean, as opposed to the manners.
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Yea I mean he was following ALL the UN resolutions to the letter after all.


In the same manner as Israel and the US? I await all the wars based on non-compliance with UN resolutions.

The charges against Hussein were selective nonsense ramped up so the war machine could be greased.


Yea! Hussein was a great humanitarian. Smile He definitely had a way with people...and some he just did away with. Jeeeez.

Just curious. Is there anything in your reply that has anything to do with what I posted?
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Yea I mean he was following ALL the UN resolutions to the letter after all.


In the same manner as Israel and the US? I await all the wars based on non-compliance with UN resolutions.

The charges against Hussein were selective nonsense ramped up so the war machine could be greased.


Yea! Hussein was a great humanitarian. Smile He definitely had a way with people...and some he just did away with. Jeeeez.

Just curious. Is there anything in your reply that has anything to do with what I posted?



The charges against Hussein were selective nonsense

DO THE MATH.
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And what in your reply addresses that statement?
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The US is the strongest country in the world militarily and will remain that way for a long time. We control the air and sea. We are not behind in the things that count.


Sad really that the only thing that counts to some is how many bodies we can pile up and how quickly we can do it.


Then you feel that maybe someone like Russia and Putin should be in the lead? Or possibly ISIS? Hmmmm.

I don't know where you are coming from but I do know I don't want to be there.


I find it quite amusing that your mind went right to an assumption that I would want the US to be weak. (knee jerk right wing response ) You got it right in the first part of your second sentence though.

The fact that the military industrial complex has taken a leading role in this country and has helped keep us in a perpetual state of war has only damaged our nation.
When people feel that the most important thing for us as a nation to be is a military juggernaught, then many important things go by the wayside. Education, Infrastucture, Health care...

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