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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 22074 Posts 
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Does the term "anchor baby" apply or am I misusing it?
And just because someone has been here against the law for a long time does not change the fact they are here against the law. It is a quite complex issue.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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That's be an interesting provision...a path to naturalized citizenship, but a citizen show naturalized (i.e. One who didn't originally come here legally) can never be the petitioner for a relative's future immigration application.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 22074 Posts
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Sort of what I am getting at. I mean obviously it is a very complex issue and one of those issues is to discourage the practice in the future. Just granting amnesty on any level does no such thing.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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It's interesting that some of the people who are the most vocal about cracking down on private incentives (i.e. clamoring about the businesses that hire illegal immigrants) are the most supportive of government incentives.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts
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On Sep 6, 2014, LobowolfXXX wrote: I'm not sure I completely follow what you are saying. Personally, I think the businesses should follow the law. At the same time, I think most DREAM type acts are huge concessions / incentives to businesses. Also, what you described are both instances of supporting law and order. Supporting existing law. And supporting new laws when existing legislation is thought to be deficient in some way.
Make America Great Again! - Trump in 2020 ... "We're a capitalistic society. I go into business, I don't make it, I go bankrupt. They're not going to bail me out. I've been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me? No." - Craig T. Nelson, actor.
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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I'm not talking about supporting law and order; I'm talking about people's beliefs about what the law should be (as opposed to whether or not it should be enforced). So, for instance, people want to punish businesses who hire illegal immigrants. Ok, fair enough. Those businesses incentivize illegal immigration. But those who are the most vehement about punishing those businesses also (tend to) want illegal immigrants to have drivers' licenses, free public education, public healthcare services, discounted state university tuition, etc. - also incentives for illegal immigration.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 15717 Posts
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Try to make a virtue of necessity and spend the less you get more wisely to make it go further.
Such are the incentives we get from our government. I know, lets swap governments and cops for a year.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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tomsk192 Inner circle 3894 Posts
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On Sep 6, 2014, LobowolfXXX wrote: I'll be spending tourist dollars in your country next summer. I just hope that my children don't see the same appalling police attitude as I saw, as a child visiting the USA. We were stopped in the car, God knows why, and the cops were disgustingly rude. It all passed without incident, but it was ironic that the US Gov used to fly my Dad over to lecture their security services. He wasn't pleased at the time. Neither were any of us impressed. I've experienced better policing in North Africa. |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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Well, to be fair, remember, you're supposed to drive on the right side of the road here.
What part of the U.S.A. will you be visiting?
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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tomsk192 Inner circle 3894 Posts
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Well, the plan is to fly to NYC. Then to Baltimore to see friends. Then fly to New Mexico, do a a bit of a drive through to Arizona. Then chip on to San Francisco to see another friend. Then the Rockies, then home.
You have beautiful country. |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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Wow, sounds like you're going to see quite a bit of it. New Mexico is particular beautiful, in my opinion.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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tomsk192 Inner circle 3894 Posts
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I do agree. I saw it twenty odd years back, and I have a yearning to see it again.
Some of my firmest friends are from that country. |
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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts
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On Sep 5, 2014, Pecan_Creek wrote: Then you feel that maybe someone like Russia and Putin should be in the lead? Or possibly ISIS? Hmmmm. I don't know where you are coming from but I do know I don't want to be there.
If I were to agree with you. Then we would both be wrong. As of Apr 5, 2015 10:26 pm I have 880 posts. Used to have over 1,000
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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts
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On Sep 5, 2014, tomsk192 wrote: He is definitely falling behind in his education. No child left behind.  It is hard to play catch up. But you and he must try. now go out and get a nice semi auto rifle preferably in black and start teaching and learning.
If I were to agree with you. Then we would both be wrong. As of Apr 5, 2015 10:26 pm I have 880 posts. Used to have over 1,000
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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts
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On Sep 6, 2014, landmark wrote: Yea! Hussein was a great humanitarian. He definitely had a way with people...and some he just did away with. Jeeeez.
If I were to agree with you. Then we would both be wrong. As of Apr 5, 2015 10:26 pm I have 880 posts. Used to have over 1,000
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 15717 Posts
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The other day I was in Stratford. There is nothing there at all. Except that is for lots of American tourists, getting very politely ripped off with the prices they being over charged there. It is worse than Paris, the prices I mean, as opposed to the manners.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5196 Posts
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On Sep 6, 2014, acesover wrote: Just curious. Is there anything in your reply that has anything to do with what I posted?
Click here to get Gerald Deutsch's Perverse Magic: The First Sixteen Years
All proceeds to Open Heart Magic charity. |
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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts
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On Sep 6, 2014, landmark wrote: The charges against Hussein were selective nonsense DO THE MATH.
If I were to agree with you. Then we would both be wrong. As of Apr 5, 2015 10:26 pm I have 880 posts. Used to have over 1,000
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5196 Posts
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And what in your reply addresses that statement?
Click here to get Gerald Deutsch's Perverse Magic: The First Sixteen Years
All proceeds to Open Heart Magic charity. |
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Pecan_Creek Veteran user The Nation of TEXAS! 323 Posts
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On Sep 6, 2014, acesover wrote: I find it quite amusing that your mind went right to an assumption that I would want the US to be weak. (knee jerk right wing response ) You got it right in the first part of your second sentence though. The fact that the military industrial complex has taken a leading role in this country and has helped keep us in a perpetual state of war has only damaged our nation. When people feel that the most important thing for us as a nation to be is a military juggernaught, then many important things go by the wayside. Education, Infrastucture, Health care... Think Rome. |
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