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On Sep 7, 2014, mastermindreader wrote:
Yes- that's the biggest part of the math, but numbers like that are difficult for me to fathom. All for nothing.

All for nothing now since the current administration pulled out and let ISIS take over what we accomplished.

The current administration followed the rules set up by the PREVIOUS administration. George W. knew he'd be safely out of office by the time the troops had to be withdrawn and whoever WAS in office would get the heat for it.

This is a joke right? Why does the current administration take credit for it while it happens and pass the blame when it seems to be sort of short sighted? A fine example of cheering for your team under any circumstance. At what point is the current administration responsible for what is happening? 6 years in and still nothing this administration has done they are responsible for. Well obviously the things they want to claim credit for.

Why was it he was not merely the occupant of the office when Bin Laden was killed? No he planned that one huh?

Consistency would be way too much to ask for I guess.

Consistency would be nice... from his critics as well. If Obama HADN'T withdrawn the troops, he'd be accused now of abusing his power and refusing to follow the agreement that was left to him by the previous administration. But because he DID follow that agreement, he's accused of abandoning the area. Actually, I'll take my first line back, we DO get consistency from Obama's critics. It doesn't matter what he does, he'll get crap for it.

On Sep 9, 2014, Dannydoyle wrote:
ONLY democrats inherit bad situations. Never republicans. ALL democratic administrations do everything right.

On Sep 9, 2014, landmark wrote:
+1, though I think Washington had a lot of good will behind him and a somewhat subdued enemy.

On Sep 9, 2014, mastermindreader wrote:

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On Sep 9, 2014, Dannydoyle wrote:
ONLY democrats inherit bad situations. Never republicans. ALL democratic administrations do everything right.

There you go again...(to quote Reagan.) No one has ever said that ALL Democratic administrations do everything right. That's just your straw man again. The simple fact being discussed here is what Obama inherited at the beginning of his administration. But rather than admit that the entire economy was in shambles you simply change the subject by making straw man statements.

YES- Reagan inherited the inflation that occurred under Carter. YES, Democrats have made serious mistakes (escalating in Vietnam comes to mind.) No one is denying that. Stop ascribing positions to those you disagree with that they don't hold at all.

Thank you.

On Sep 4, 2014, landmark wrote:

He will be remembered by many as the man who had the opportunity to change the course of the country from the preceding psychopaths and then went back on every promise made to the people who voted for him. Kind of like those mystery thrillers where the serial killer turns out to be the detective.

On Sep 10, 2014, rockwall wrote:

Moore said, “When the history is written of this era, this is how you’ll be remembered: ‘He was the first black president.’ OK, not a bad accomplishment, but that’s it. That’s it, Mr. Obama. A hundred years from now, ‘He was the first black American that got elected president.’ And that’s it. Eight years of your life and that’s what people are got to remember. Boy, I got a feeling, know you, that you’d probably wish you were remembered for a few other things, a few other things you could’ve done.”

On Sep 11, 2014, balducci wrote:

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On Sep 10, 2014, rockwall wrote:

Moore said, “When the history is written of this era, this is how you’ll be remembered: ‘He was the first black president.’ OK, not a bad accomplishment, but that’s it. That’s it, Mr. Obama. A hundred years from now, ‘He was the first black American that got elected president.’ And that’s it. Eight years of your life and that’s what people are got to remember. Boy, I got a feeling, know you, that you’d probably wish you were remembered for a few other things, a few other things you could’ve done.”

I've no doubt he'll be remembered for health care and for removing troops from Iraq (no matter how those actions turn out over time).

But I think the fact is, no matter what Obama did, even had he been the most successful and best loved President ever, a hundred years from now he would still be remembered foremost for being the first black President. Everything else he did and does will be, and was always going to be, a historical footnote.

On Sep 10, 2014, mastermindreader wrote:

BTW- I know you don't agree with me on that, but at least we agreed on something. Also, happy to see that Pittsburgh won. I'm going to have to miss football this weekend as I'm off to Ohio to do Penguin Live with Osterlind and won't be back until next Wednesday.

Bob