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That is the question.
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It is also the answer>
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What good is that personal speculation compared with nature?
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To philosophize does not mean to speculate. Quite the opposite. We philosophize to replace speculation and conventional wisdom with rational, provable thought.
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Sort of provable, anyway.
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To philosophize does not mean to speculate. Quite the opposite. We philosophize to replace speculation and conventional wisdom with rational, provable thought.

At least, that's the conventional wisdom...
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The question itself is a philosophical one. In assuming the question is worth asking, it provides its own answer.

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Sort of provable, anyway.


Exactly.

I mean, sort of exactly.
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Philosophers, they are just a bunch of hair splitters, who split and spit them beyond the point of division and at that point they are beyond nature and their philosophies amount to nothing but personal speculations compared to nature. So what then is the good of philosophizing? I mean, lets face it, all they do is sit around talking a load of ********.
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Tommy - you don't seem to see the irony that you are engaging in philosophical debate.

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On Sep 9, 2014, LobowolfXXX wrote:
Sort of provable, anyway.


Exactly.

I mean, sort of exactly.


Modal logic proves all kinds of things. But nobody understands them.
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It is a game played by many but mostly by Academicians and has no winners or losers. Many people play it but only Academicians consider their game of any real meaning.

It is also a major in college that after graduation you cannot find a job. So then you further your education in it and go deeper in debt on student loans that you can never pay back from what you studied.
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Are you the guy who thinks that education's only purpose is job training?
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I have a degree in Philosophy. I never go anywhere without it.
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Are you the guy who thinks that education's only purpose is job training?


No that is not me.

I am the guy that believes that after college one should be prepared to go out in the world and use the education they received and do the best they can to make a good life for themselves and their family. I would assume that is the premise of getting a college education.
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I have a degree in Philosophy. I never go anywhere without it.


Yes. But you are also a scoundrel.
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Philosophers are scoundrels. Every one.
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