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That is the question.


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Are you the guy who thinks that education's only purpose is job training?


No that is not me.

I am the guy that believes that after college one should be prepared to go out in the world and use the education they received and do the best they can to make a good life for themselves and their family. I would assume that is the premise of getting a college education.


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On Sep 9, 2014, 0pus wrote:
Are you the guy who thinks that education's only purpose is job training?


No that is not me.

I am the guy that believes that after college one should be prepared to go out in the world and use the education they received and do the best they can to make a good life for themselves and their family. I would assume that is the premise of getting a college education.


In other words, you think the only purpose of education is job training. What ever happened to seeking knowledge of knowledge's sake? Do you see no value or purpose in that?
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I think it's fine, as long as you don't push the government to force your boss to pay you $15/hour to flip burgers.
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I think it's fine, as long as you don't push the government to force your boss to pay you $15/hour to flip burgers.


Why not?
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Because of the absolute Constitutional Right to starve.
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I think it's fine, as long as you don't push the government to force your boss to pay you $15/hour to flip burgers.


Why not?


Because it's not his obligation to subsidize your choice to pursue an economically disadvantageous line of study.
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Because of the absolute Constitutional Right to starve.


Maybe the government could force one's parents to provide room and board until age 70 instead of 18. That would seem to serve.
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I think it's fine, as long as you don't push the government to force your boss to pay you $15/hour to flip burgers.


Why not?


Because it's not his obligation to subsidize your choice to pursue an economically disadvantageous line of study.


Should the government force your boss to do anything?
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats
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Probably so.

Should the government be able to force your boss to pay $100/hour for unskilled labor?
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Probably so.

Should the government be able to force your boss to pay $100/hour for unskilled labor?


Able? Of course. Would it be a prudent course of action in today's economy? I don't think so. But what do I know?
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Because of the absolute Constitutional Right to starve.


Maybe the government could force one's parents to provide room and board until age 70 instead of 18. That would seem to serve.

Society can be organized in many different ways. A way that guarantees that many will barely survive despite working 40 hours a week is a morally bankrupt one.
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On Sep 10, 2014, landmark wrote:
Because of the absolute Constitutional Right to starve.


Maybe the government could force one's parents to provide room and board until age 70 instead of 18. That would seem to serve.

Society can be organized in many different ways. A way that guarantees that many will barely survive despite working 40 hours a week is a morally bankrupt one.



1) I agree, and I'm glad we don't live in a society like that.

2) A society that takes it upon itself to protect people from all of their choices is going to be a financially bankrupt one.
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Are you the guy who thinks that education's only purpose is job training?


No that is not me.

I am the guy that believes that after college one should be prepared to go out in the world and use the education they received and do the best they can to make a good life for themselves and their family. I would assume that is the premise of getting a college education.


In other words, you think the only purpose of education is job training. What ever happened to seeking knowledge of knowledge's sake? Do you see no value or purpose in that?


Absoutely none if you can afford it. It is a wonderful idea. But to seek knowledge at the cost of neglect of ones family is not only unjust it is selfish and self centered and a person has to be non caring almost a Sociopath.
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Because of the absolute Constitutional Right to starve.


Maybe the government could force one's parents to provide room and board until age 70 instead of 18. That would seem to serve.



Well the government sure is trying to up the parents time of taking care of slacker xbox children...they already adjusted health care coverage CHILDREN to 26. Kind of takes away the responsibility of the kids because they live at home and have not yet grown up and accepted responsibility. Of course I am sure you can come up with some good reasons that you believe this is good. So why not make it 30 or 40 and make it even better? Keep them in the entitlement zone.
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